Bro maybe you need to look at a calendar again. 50 years ago was 1974, NZ economy was in the doldrums and about to enter a recession in 1976.
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Exactly.People were flooding off to OZ in those days.I myself went in 1988.
Most modern “capitalists” are entirely dependent on the state. NZ’s entire landlord class is dependent on the state. Childcare business? State dependent. Any business that operates as an intermediary between the government and its citizens Is entirely dependent on the state to exist.
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'Heartbreaking': Samantha Hayes shares reaction to Newshub closure announcement
"For now though, see you at 6pm," the presenter of Newshub's flagship show said.
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That’s was my wife’s business, although I helped behind the scenes.
My business interests include the trades, tourism, recruitment and property development - all successful in the private sector where govt just gets in the way
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Wow! Pretty depressing for the media industry.'Heartbreaking': Samantha Hayes shares reaction to Newshub closure announcement
"For now though, see you at 6pm," the presenter of Newshub's flagship show said.
Social media, google, Facebook, etc are turning traditional media into video stores.
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It's what we all wanted, isn't it???
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Semi-automatics could make return to gun ranges in firearms law shakeup
"There's nothing set in stone as we advance this process."
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Include Fletchers, roading construction companies, the multiple power companies, the two step supermarket duopoly and insurance companies that are subsidised by the 300k EQC levy…
some people SHOULD be in prison longer though.
some of you guys talk like it was just bad luck some of these guys find themselves in jail.
'Severe pain': Dairy worker who had thumb sliced off speaks of struggles
Trayd Tahau, who was high on meth at the time, has now been jailed.www.nzherald.co.nz
starting sentence of 15 years reduced to likely 4 years 2 months.
talk about spitting in the face of the victims.
imagine getting your sentence reduced because you were a methhead white supremacist who grew up in a white supremacist house?
ha! unlikely.
nevermind the fact that you were caught red handed but pled guilty so you get a QUARTER of your sentence knocked off???
give me a fucking break.
also i’m well aware far too many people are imprisoned unfairly, but you cannot honestly say that dude deserves to have 73% of his sentence wiped for ANY reason.
There is the fact that his Father took him off his mental health treatment.
That should be weighted in the sentencing of anyone with a mental health diagnosis, especially a young offender.
Also pleading guilty is seen as a positive regarding sentencing.
Am I bleeding in my heart over this story for the offender? no because the cynic in me knows from working with children of gangs that most are fkd all they know is gang.
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I’d exclude power being a utility (exceptional category) and supermarkets. Selling food direct to consumers is a true capitalist activity, it’s just been corrupted.
Is Winnie behind this? An attack on the media?'Heartbreaking': Samantha Hayes shares reaction to Newshub closure announcement
"For now though, see you at 6pm," the presenter of Newshub's flagship show said.
Corporates hate decentralised news services. They are owned by Disney Warner Bros
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Would those who own security companies be also modern "capitalists" dependent on the state?
It's probably good that Jacinda is no longer running the news conferences.....
"Jessica" looks blankly around the room "then Jessica again".
Nah security is still a service provider separate of a central government. Ie mercenaries, private armies, assassins can all operate in a free market.
Childcare on the other hand requires massive state intervention to become viable.
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Haven't really heard anything in this regard other than motherhood statements,. I need to see the detail and some kind of long term plan.
They are the nothing govt so far, all they do is moan about the finances and cancel things without a plan to fill the gap.
Did actually hear some good ideas from bishop on housing, but again motherhood and no detail on how is going to be achieved.
We can all put aspirational shit out there but you get elected to have a plan and deliver it.
The reason I asked was because I’ve read that landlords are considered dependent on the government because they claim back expenses (which all businesses do) and because, if the government housed all renters, there would be no private landlords. The second part wouldn’t happen because of the cost of providing housing on that scale.
The other reason I’ve heard about dependency on the government is because some renters rely on accommodation supplements to top up their rents.
Just wondering if the same could have been said for security companies….. just as private landlords are required for providing housing as the government can’t afford to provide to everyone, security companies provide a service that government’s can’t afford to provide to everyone. Just like some landlord’s income is dependent on the tenant getting government help, a security company with government contracts is dependent on the government for part of its income.
TBH, there would be too many businesses which wouldn’t be dependent, either directly or indirectly, on the government to some degree. The building industry is very dependent on government because of all the regulations on it and because central and local government control the supply of land through town planning zonal requirements. For all the calls for less governmental control, there would be chaos without it.
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Do any of your tenants recieve the Accomodation Supplement from the state?That’s was my wife’s business, although I helped behind the scenes.
My business interests include the trades, tourism, recruitment and property development - all successful in the private sector where govt just gets in the way
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What do you want them to do? Govt never makes a rockstar economy, they get out of the way and enable private enterprise to do it. There had been a lot of getting out of the way at the moment and undoing Labours failed state control policies.
We haven’t even been finished the first 100 day plan yet. Success will be slow and by 1000 small changes rather that Labours bold statements with no follow through.
Judge in 2 years when seemingly insignificant things like removing interest deductibility has allowed the rental market to flow efficiently again.
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Hey, the state is massive with its influence everywhere but a successful govt plugs holes, it doesn’t try to influence and control the economy through state intervention which Labour did unsuccessfully.
And no, I’m not aware of any of my tenants receiving the accomodation supplement but they could without my knowledge???
