Cost recovery, no conspiracy.Stuff
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Jeez you might be right.
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Think it was left where it was to try and promote the use of public transport. Not sure putting the price up is going to have that effect. Becoming easier to see where the money for tax cuts is coming. From ourselves.
No you are jumping at shadows. Itās simply that costs have been going up with inflation and eventually prices need to increase to offset. Thereās no story here.
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Costs have been going up for some time and remained the same. Petrol fluctuations, inflation etc.
Yes but you canāt leave prices unchanged forever. There comes a point where they have to start lifting again. If the diesel price were to collapse then sure there might be scope to drop prices for customers, however that hasnāt happened yet and remains well above pre-Covid levels.
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Bus drivers canāt go up 30% in the last few years and prices never go up - it has just demanded more and more subsidy.
Costs eventually need to be passed on (unless you can can be more productive)
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An added piece of context for the golriz saga - the original blogger who leaked all this information has close
Maybe their wages were 30% below where they should be because of greedy corporates who took advantage of privatisation.
All these things were factors under the previous government and managed to be worked around in order for the promotion of public transport use. Would have thought the goal would be to continue to promote public transport rather than deter it for the same goal previously to take cars off the road to lessen congestion.
How do you suppose the previous government managed to āwork aroundā the cost inflation? You canāt keep running everything in an unsustainable way.
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Politicians are voted in manage such decisions of what money goes where and for what reasons. Whatās the plan from here on out to promote lessening congestion when in the last day a rail project is scrapped and public transport prices hiked?
But what is the full picture? How about the hike in KiwiRail pricing over the last 12 months? Where were the squeals of discontent when KiwiRail hiked pricing more than 30% for some customers? Isnāt rail more carbon efficient than road? How could it be that KiwiRail, while overseen by a Labour government with a sympathetic ear to our so-called environmentally friendly Greens party, see fit to lift prices, in one hit last February, by 26% for the key Metroport freight rail service between Tauranga & South Auckland? If you choose to be balanced then thereās 2 sides to every story.
Kiwi rail goes further than public transport though with the likes of freight involved also. Itās the side of public transport weāre talking about and plans to minimise congestion.
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Congestion for freight vs congestion for commuters. Carbon emission output of freight vs carbon emission output of commuters. Pick your poison I reckon.
Are we talking about the cleanliness of rail and transport as opposed to the public transport aspect of rail and transport? Would be a matter of physics that 50 people catching a train to one destination as opposed to 50 people driving 50 cars to that destination would be cleaner if so.
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Iām not arguing that. Whatever the real cost is though, needs to be paid for under user pays?
Real efficiencies will be if technology delivers driverless public transport. Real lower cost for users rather than hiding the true cost through subsidies.
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My question is as the announcement was made on a Sunday are these politicians already back at work or was this saved up to coincide with the wedding.
Don't tell me they're back at work already
Nah, my point is really just that thereās no consistency in judging one government decision to the next, and Labourās stewardship can be perceived just as negatively (or worse) in its impact on all of us as anything National has thrown up so far. Who ultimately pays for the significant lift in KiwiRail pricing? NZ consumers and manufacturers. Was this a good outcome when we are in the middle of a cost of living crisis? No. Does it directly contribute to higher inflation? Yes. But was it required in order to offset escalating operating costs? Probably.
Rather than look for the negative, or worse the conspiracy in everything the new government is doing, Id love for some of you to see things just a bit more balanced. Sadly I donāt think some are capable.
Canāt see how you could see anything positive in this particular decision for multiple reasons such as a congestion aspect through to a peopleās stretched budgets who rely on public transport being further stretched. For a party who ran an election on easing the cost of living on middle and lower incomes, they arenāt doing a good so far.
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You are completely missing my point.
Yeah I am waiting for up to date announcements.
I don't begrudge them removing light rail as long as they have a great plan and it begins THIS year.
