Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

NZWarriors.com
To be fair Labour had 6 years of planning and did bugger all
That's covers basically every policy for the last 6 years. Don't mention kiwibuild.....

Actually, if they had done bugger all we would be better off instead of the spendathon with very little to show for it other than declining results in all key areas. Oh and some road lanes converted in to well underutilized cycle lanes. Imagine being the one who thought that was a good idea.
 
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
You mean changing it to how every other country in the world does it?

Is the world wide way a dogs breakfast?
I think Scotland tried doing it differently..... How did that turn out?

We've spent far too much on the consultation on a policy that they didn't even have the conviction to go on with and has also been shown to be not the right solution in the another country it's been tried. If they believed it was the right way to go, why did they shelve it? Covetting the power of government took priority for them.
 
Last edited:
I think Scotland tried doing it differently..... How did that turn out?
Scotland has very heavy fines for breaking smoking laws.
Just because something is unpalatable and is not the opinion of wiz doesn't mean it's wrong and shouldn't be perservered with.
At the end of the day the problem is still with us and it's not going away
 
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
Very good start to improving health outcomes for Maori. Getting rates closer to the rest of the population would be a huge step forward. Overall immunisation rates should be higher for all ethnicities in NZ than they are.



$50 million to lift immunisation rates
HON DR SHANE RETI
Health

Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has announced a two-year $50 million package to help Māori health providers lift immunisation rates.

Launching the programme in Porirua today, Dr Reti says low immunisation rates put tamariki at particular risk of life threatening – and in some cases deadly – illness.

“We have a shared determination to make a difference for our most vulnerable.

“That’s why this programme is important and why as a government we’re determined immunisation rates will improve for all children, including low-coverage Māori babies and children.

“When there are outbreaks of serious disease like whooping cough or measles, which happens usually every three to four years, it’s high-needs communities and pēpi Māori who are often more adversely affected.

“Immunisation is one of the best ways to set up tamariki for a healthy future.

“It protects them from serious but preventable disease and reduces the risk of hospitalisation or worse – something no parent wants to face.

“We also want to be able to offer additional immunisation protection for our elders who need it.”

Of the $50 million over two years, $30 million will go to Whānau Ora providers to work with those most at risk – Māori and non-Māori pēpi, hāpu māma, and kaumātua. An additional $10 million will go to North Island partners and $10 million to South Island partners.

“The new funding will play a vital role in helping Māori health providers better reach out into their communities,” Dr Reti says.

“Whānau Ora services the under privileged and hard to reach communities where vaccination will be offered to everyone who is eligible, and Māori and non-Māori who are ready to be vaccinated.

“National campaigned on improved immunisation rates and it’s a key part of our health targets.”

Also in Porirua, Dr Reti launched My Health Record, an app giving people improved access to their personal health records, and confirmed the expansion of the Aotearoa Immunisation Register (AIR), to support vaccination outreach activity.

The expanded register went live in early December and means health providers and vaccinators can view gaps in immunisation history and be able to offer vaccinations through existing GP connections or a vaccinator portal.

Editors notes

Current Māori immunisation rates are:

66.8 per cent at 8 months
70.1 per cent at 24 months
69.7 per cent at 5 years
 
Very good start to improving health outcomes for Maori. Getting rates closer to the rest of the population would be a huge step forward. Overall immunisation rates should be higher for all ethnicities in NZ than they are.



$50 million to lift immunisation rates
HON DR SHANE RETI
Health

Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has announced a two-year $50 million package to help Māori health providers lift immunisation rates.

Launching the programme in Porirua today, Dr Reti says low immunisation rates put tamariki at particular risk of life threatening – and in some cases deadly – illness.

“We have a shared determination to make a difference for our most vulnerable.

“That’s why this programme is important and why as a government we’re determined immunisation rates will improve for all children, including low-coverage Māori babies and children.

“When there are outbreaks of serious disease like whooping cough or measles, which happens usually every three to four years, it’s high-needs communities and pēpi Māori who are often more adversely affected.

“Immunisation is one of the best ways to set up tamariki for a healthy future.

“It protects them from serious but preventable disease and reduces the risk of hospitalisation or worse – something no parent wants to face.

“We also want to be able to offer additional immunisation protection for our elders who need it.”

Of the $50 million over two years, $30 million will go to Whānau Ora providers to work with those most at risk – Māori and non-Māori pēpi, hāpu māma, and kaumātua. An additional $10 million will go to North Island partners and $10 million to South Island partners.

“The new funding will play a vital role in helping Māori health providers better reach out into their communities,” Dr Reti says.

“Whānau Ora services the under privileged and hard to reach communities where vaccination will be offered to everyone who is eligible, and Māori and non-Māori who are ready to be vaccinated.

“National campaigned on improved immunisation rates and it’s a key part of our health targets.”

Also in Porirua, Dr Reti launched My Health Record, an app giving people improved access to their personal health records, and confirmed the expansion of the Aotearoa Immunisation Register (AIR), to support vaccination outreach activity.

The expanded register went live in early December and means health providers and vaccinators can view gaps in immunisation history and be able to offer vaccinations through existing GP connections or a vaccinator portal.

Editors notes

Current Māori immunisation rates are:

66.8 per cent at 8 months
70.1 per cent at 24 months
69.7 per cent at 5 years
TBH, throwing money at something is all well and good, but I’d rather wait to see the results….. otherwise, it’s no different from the previous Government and mental health.
 
TBH, throwing money at something is all well and good, but I’d rather wait to see the results….. otherwise, it’s no different from the previous Government and mental health.
For sure. It does seem like the right place to start though doesn't it? Certainly targeted at the right area and should be easy to measure.
 
Last edited:
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
It’s like calling someone wanting equal right for all races, racist. Or left voters being communists or right voters far right. It’s dramatisation, isn’t it.

NZ doesn’t meet that definition. We are not unbridled capitalism. Health, education, etc are public. Our housing is controlled by rules and regulations, etc.

Nothing public has been privatised or deregulated by this govt, or if it is it’s very minor. The majority of core government services are public. Taxes are at record levels with lack of indexation and many new taxes. I regard it that we are returning taxes to normal and in no way are we a low tax country.

NZ is a mix of capitalism with significant public and social services. Our parties tweak rather than moving the bar significantly. For perspective the left of US politics would still be to the right of Act.
Can't disagree more Wiz. And we are a low tax country.
 
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
"Take out countries similar to us who tax appropriately and have the best health, societal and economic outcomes......."
They could be viewed as states of the EU. If you included all 52 states of the USA as seperate countries isn’t that only fair?

Anyway… we’re not a low tax country and capital gains taxes or wealth taxes on top won’t make much difference. We need to not spend the most and take the longest in the world to build a tunnel to get value for money from the taxes we have.

Even better - if we had the same tax rate but doubled our GDP we would have twice the infrastructure, hospitals, teachers with the same tax rate. Grow productivity rather than over taxing and stalling the economy.
 
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
They could be viewed as states of the EU. If you included all 52 states of the USA as seperate countries isn’t that only fair?

Anyway… we’re not a low tax country and capital gains taxes or wealth taxes on top won’t make much difference. We need to not spend the most and take the longest in the world to build a tunnel to get value for money from the taxes we have.

Even better - if we had the same tax rate but doubled our GDP we would have twice the infrastructure, hospitals, teachers with the same tax rate. Grow productivity rather than over taxing and stalling the economy.
Twice the infrastructure? That doesn't happen in a neolib economy, it's all about profit extraction and pushing the cost out to the public. No investment, proponents of neoliberalism don't care.

Your EU analogy is fiction. America is one country.
 
Twice the infrastructure? That doesn't happen in a neolib economy, it's all about profit extraction and pushing the cost out to the public. No investment, proponents of neoliberalism don't care.

Your EU analogy is fiction. America is one country.
Basic maths. With the same tax rate if we double GDP per capita the government gets twice the tax income without increasing taxes. With a stable population that’s where we get good hospitals, roads, rail, etc. Look at Sweden which the left highlight but they did it off the back of oil reserves and a resulting high GDP per person.

Even in a neoliberal economy if we double the economy, the tax income more than doubles (due to progressive tax bands) to the government per person, this has to go back into social investment and services.

We’ve cheated by increasing the population to increase the GDP. But on a per capita basis we make no progress and the hospitals and schools get forever stretched.


* social investment autocorrected to sexual investment - lucky I checked because thats not something the government should be doing 🤣
 
Basic maths. With the same tax rate if we double GDP per capita the government gets twice the tax income without increasing taxes. With a stable population that’s where we get good hospitals, roads, rail, etc. Look at Sweden which the left highlight but they did it off the back of oil reserves and a resulting high GDP per person.

Even in a neoliberal economy if we double the tax income to the government per person, this has to go back into social investment and services.

We’ve cheated by increasing the population to increase the GDP. But on a per capita basis we make no progress and the hospitals and schools get forever stretched.


* social investment autocorrected to sexual investment - lucky I checked because thats not something the government should be doing 🤣
It's honestly weird that you don't expect huge profit extraction and under investment in everything that a country relies on, like health, infra etc. and all costs socialised. Think deregulation. Think leaky buildings that cost us $50b. Think asset sales. This is who the neolibs are Wiz.

We've been living this for 40+ years.
 
NZWarriors.com
Advertisement
If you would like to remove these advertisements, please do so by registering a free account
It's honestly weird that you don't expect huge profit extraction and under investment in everything that a country relies on, like health, infra etc. and all costs socialised. Think deregulation. Think leaky buildings that cost us $50b. Think asset sales. This is who the neolibs are Wiz.

We've been living this for 40+ years.
His underlying theories are correct NZ voting population doesn't allow it.

If NZ political centre and left hadn't been so anti mining for example, then you cant get wedged by National who at the same time unleash a smoking free for all all because Chris Bishop needs to repay the hand shandies.

Ideological opposition to practical policies destroys countries. Look at Australia, Labour are shit, but not that much better than Libs. But their ideological opposition to resource extraction and nuclear power is stupid. They will get turfed when power bills keep rising, and the Libs with bring the rest of their shit policies.
 
It's honestly weird that you don't expect huge profit extraction and under investment in everything that a country relies on, like health, infra etc. and all costs socialised. Think deregulation. Think leaky buildings that cost us $50b. Think asset sales. This is who the neolibs are Wiz.

We've been living this for 40+ years.
Huge profits = huge corporate tax.

Huge productivity = huge employee pay (look at Aussie mines) = huge PAYE

Huge money circulating in the system = huge GST

If the government gets 30% of GDP and the economy doubles, our govt doubles what it can provide. Real govt growth rather than taxing more to the detriment of the economy.

It’s counter productive to stay broke so the rich people can’t get any benefit…

These are all seperate to leaky buildings, asset sales and deregulation. Productivity = build more irrigation, mining, oil, high tech manufacturing, secondary production of our primary resources, etc.

I’m sick of trying to live like a first class country off the back of farming and tourism.
 
Back
Top