Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[MaybeTop8]

You haven’t noticed the media angle:

- The govt is going to kill 5000 smokers
- the govt is racist
- worst coalition negotiations ever
- failed govt (after 1 week)
- sold out to gun lobby/ smoking lobby
- Reti should resign
- worst government opening ever
- etc, etc, etc

Negative, negative, negative. And just proven that middle NZ hasn’t fallen for the bought out media’s hitjob

This thread has followed the same negative narrative hence people leaving and the claims of negativity, lack of balance and perspective.

I’ve personally been called racist, a white supremisist, wanting to kill the poor, privileged, etc in this thread just for supporting what middle NZ want.

Maybe a good chance for some people to reflect on if this thread is representative of middle NZ?

This government are deliberately targeting increasing smoking and uptake. They will kill 10s of 1000s of people and entrench a horrible death product back into our lives
This government IS racist
Yep agree, worst negotiations ever
Yep agree, failed government
and agree with everything else

BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. Reporting fact isn't being negative.

Look at your own posts for lack of perspective and balance some time.

 

[MaybeTop8]

You haven’t noticed the media angle:

- The govt is going to kill 5000 smokers
- the govt is racist
- worst coalition negotiations ever
- failed govt (after 1 week)
- sold out to gun lobby/ smoking lobby
- Reti should resign
- worst government opening ever
- etc, etc, etc

Negative, negative, negative. And just proven that middle NZ hasn’t fallen for the bought out media’s hitjob

This thread has followed the same negative narrative hence people leaving and the claims of negativity, lack of balance and perspective.

I’ve personally been called racist, a white supremisist, wanting to kill the poor, privileged, etc in this thread just for supporting what middle NZ want.

Maybe a good chance for some people to reflect on if this thread is representative of middle NZ?

What is middle nz? A bunch of middle aged boomers wanting to return to the 1980s?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

This government are deliberately targeting increasing smoking and uptake. They will kill 10s of 1000s of people and entrench a horrible death product back into our lives
This government IS racist
Yep agree, worst negotiations ever
Yep agree, failed government
and agree with everything else

BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. Reporting fact isn't being negative.

Look at your own posts for lack of perspective and balance some time.

That is all your perspective and it’s not one shared by the majority of New Zealanders. Whatever it is you think you see from this government, best you get use to it because it is most likely at least 6 years before the left get another turn in power.

 

[MaybeTop8]

That is all your perspective and it’s not one shared by the majority of New Zealanders. Whatever it is you think you see from this government, best you get use to it because it is most likely at least 6 years before the left get another turn in power.

It's not a perspective, it's happening in front of your and everyone else's eyes.

This is about progressing as a society, knowing right from wrong. Not right from left. There's a moral concern and this mob don't care about anyone apart from themselves and their benefactors.

That's not democracy, that's corruption.

 

[BabylonPink]

It's not a perspective, it's happening in front of your and everyone else's eyes.

This is about progressing as a society, knowing right from wrong. Not right from left. There's a moral concern and this mob don't care about anyone apart from themselves and their benefactors.

That's not democracy, that's corruption.

Yes seems strange to unban smoking....
Like hey guys we've subsidised Arsenic!

 

[BabylonPink]

Yes seems strange to unban smoking....
Like hey guys we've subsidised Arsenic!

Remember asbestos well its back!

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

It's not a perspective, it's happening in front of your and everyone else's eyes.

This is about progressing as a society, knowing right from wrong. Not right from left. There's a moral concern and this mob don't care about anyone apart from themselves and their benefactors.

That's not democracy, that's corruption.

No it’s happening in front of your eyes because that is what you choose to believe. You and others are seeking out media commentary & opinions that support your view - that’s confirmation bias.

This country democratically voted in a change of government. Did anyone want a 3-way coalition? Doubtful, however that’s what we have and it’s required those 3 parties to find some middle ground. That’s creating a bit of indigestion, which the left leaning media, as well as those that don’t seem to respect democracy, are getting hysterical over.

Everyone just needs to calm down a bit and let this new mob have a chance to improve things - because clearly most New Zealanders were unhappy with the direction we were going in under Labour. There’s no corruption or any of the other shit that you are peddling.

 

[John Nick]

New Curia poll out today and despite all the negativity on here ‘the major parties remained relatively the same with National easing half a point to 36.5 percent’

And Peters, despite leading an anti media campaign and being roundly criticised everywhere is up a couple of points.

Despite a big media beat up lately, it’s backfiring in their faces, with the 3 coalition parties maintaining their overall support because the parties have actually just been doing what their election policies were which their supporters are happy with

Democracy/ new govt/ middle NZ 1; media 0

They are not actually doing what their election policies were.
No tax cuts are mentioned in the 100 day agenda.
They're not going to happen as promised.
Crime. Mitchell sent a letter to the Police chief. Gangs will be shitting themselves.

 

[MaybeTop8]

No it’s happening in front of your eyes because that is what you choose to believe. You and others are seeking out media commentary & opinions that support your view - that’s confirmation bias.

This country democratically voted in a change of government. Did anyone want a 3-way coalition? Doubtful, however that’s what we have and it’s required those 3 parties to find some middle ground. That’s creating a bit of indigestion, which the left leaning media, as well as those that don’t seem to respect democracy, are getting hysterical over.

Everyone just needs to calm down a bit and let this new mob have a chance to improve things - because clearly most New Zealanders were unhappy with the direction we were going in under Labour. There’s no corruption or any of the other shit that you are peddling.

I'll say it slowly - ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THEY ARE NOT INTERPRETATION.

No corruption? Jaysis - check out the backing of the NRA and big tobacco for a start. Not to mention the millions in dark money that was donated to ACT and National.

Not peddling anything. IT'S HAPPENING

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

And for those of you getting a giggle out of my posts - well the jokes on you really. You are living in a country now that you clearly hate. If it’s that bad for you, then how about consider moving somewhere else?

 

[John Nick]

Have tax cuts been cancelled?

I hadn’t heard. I thought it was just the funding needed to be rejigged.

How,?? And crime??
Sending a letter isn't going to fix anything

 

[BabylonPink]

And for those of you getting a giggle out of my posts - well the jokes on you really. You are living in a country now that you clearly hate. If it’s that bad for you, then how about consider moving somewhere else?

If ya don't love it , leave it

Lol

How dare you in a democracy not conform to majority mandate whether or not it was based upon deceit?

 

[MaybeTop8]

And for those of you getting a giggle out of my posts - well the jokes on you really. You are living in a country now that you clearly hate. If it’s that bad for you, then how about consider moving somewhere else?

Not at all mate, not giggling either. This is serious. What I do hate to see is a regression to allow a poison in that destroys lives and communities and is known to kill, to pay for tax cuts that effectively National lied about how they were going to fund, and only used them as a bribe to get votes.

Labour were shit, and this is a protest vote against them. Not many people voted for lax gun control and instigating the biggest reversal in race relations in the last century. Unfortunately that's what we're seeing.

And I'd lay odds we're about to launch into a new round of privatisation.

I'm old enough to have lived through this for 40 years. It's fucked the country and will fuck it further. Meanwhile an elite set of New Zealanders and their backers will get extremely wealthy, then leave to their boltholes. Fay, Richwhite anyone?

People have short memories - who's in National? All of those involved with dirty politics - collins, key, mitchell, wayne eagleson, the list goes on.

 

[John Nick]

And for those of you getting a giggle out of my posts - well the jokes on you really. You are living in a country now that you clearly hate. If it’s that bad for you, then how about consider moving somewhere else?

Have you watched the Acting PM in question time today and could you please tell me what your thoughts are on his behavior

 

[Noitall]

Have you watched the Acting PM in question time today and could you please tell me what your thoughts are on his actions

Waititi within his rights to ask the question in Te Reo as a recognised language of the country. Would say jones informed him of that and the reason why he wouldn’t answer the question until then was then blamed on the device for translation. Got a feeling he’s going to trip himself up real soon.

 

[John Nick]

Waititi within his rights to ask the question in Te Reo as a recognised language of the country. Would say jones informed him of that and the reason why he wouldn’t answer the question until then was then blamed on the device for translation. Got a feeling he’s going to trip himself up real soon.

Isn't it ironic that when Mitchell is questioned about more cops he says he's found that the attrition rate is very serious.
Not long ago he was critical of the recruitment process.
Wtf has changed. Oh wait..

 

[juju]

You haven’t noticed the media angle:

- The govt is going to kill 5000 smokers
- the govt is racist
- worst coalition negotiations ever
- failed govt (after 1 week)
- sold out to gun lobby/ smoking lobby
- Reti should resign
- worst government opening ever
- etc, etc, etc

Negative, negative, negative. And just proven that middle NZ hasn’t fallen for the bought out media’s hitjob

This thread has followed the same negative narrative hence people leaving and the claims of negativity, lack of balance and perspective.

I’ve personally been called racist, a white supremisist, wanting to kill the poor, privileged, etc in this thread just for supporting what middle NZ want.

Maybe a good chance for some people to reflect on if this thread is representative of middle NZ?

The Poll National dropped in? Luxon's favourability is dropped lower in the toilet in? Act plummeted / NZF surpassed them in?
TPM over the threshold of 5% in?

You need to learn to read polls a bit better - but with youhysteria about an orchestrated media beat up - it never bodes well
Supper telling you can by the media being bribed narrative - but are totally fine with donation to political parties.

The start to the government has been rolling out some of the most negative policy ever seen by a new government - making headline across the globally.

Are you really trying to say middle NZ voted for the smoking legislation roll back, the AR roll back & the attack on Te Reo? Rather than just wanting Labour out..
Get a grip & the delusion to not even confront the issues of the coalition really is something to behold.

Maybe it's a good chance for you to reflect on why trolling posts illicit such reactions from fellow Warriors fans... rather than crying about how mean people are because you're so middle NZ.

 

[juju]

I'll say it slowly - ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE HAPPENING. THEY ARE NOT INTERPRETATION.

No corruption? Jaysis - check out the backing of the NRA and big tobacco for a start. Not to mention the millions in dark money that was donated to ACT and National.

Not peddling anything. IT'S HAPPENING

People in this very thread have haven't written screds on the bribed media conspiracy...
but think party donations are totally not an issue because its the parties they support receiving them.

I'd find it much more respectful if there was at least the smallest amount of consistency.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

The Poll National dropped in? Luxon's favourability is dropped lower in the toilet in? Act plummeted / NZF surpassed them in?
TPM over the threshold of 5% in?

You need to learn to read polls a bit better - but with youhysteria about an orchestrated media beat up - it never bodes well
Supper telling you can by the media being bribed narrative - but are totally fine with donation to political parties.

The start to the government has been rolling out some of the most negative policy ever seen by a new government - making headline across the globally.

Are you really trying to say middle NZ voted for the smoking legislation roll back, the AR roll back & the attack on Te Reo? Rather than just wanting Labour out..
Get a grip & the delusion to not even confront the issues of the coalition really is something to behold.

Maybe it's a good chance for you to reflect on why trolling posts illicit such reactions from fellow Warriors fans... rather than crying about how mean people are because you're so middle NZ.

That’s a lot of words but the fact is National, ACT and NZ first got 52% in the election vs 51% in the latest polls.

Where’s the combined massive support crash with all the disasters the media and you’re all claiming?

Middle NZ is happy with the government, what it voted for and the policy portfolio that we now have.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

They are not actually doing what their election policies were.
No tax cuts are mentioned in the 100 day agenda.
They're not going to happen as promised.
Crime. Mitchell sent a letter to the Police chief. Gangs will be shitting themselves.

Tax cuts will roll around 1st of April in the new financial year. You can’t change them mid financial year.

The police are committed to 500 new recruits; diverting frontline police away from domestic and mental health and onto frontline policing with specialised people trained in those areas addressing them; crackdown on gangs; removing Labours version of policing by consent; tougher sentencing; more prison spaces; focus on youth crime, etc

Also the big picture stuff - getting kids in school; more mental health funding (gumboot Friday, etc), social investment into families, etc.