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[Inruin]

Wonder how we'd have come out of the world covid experience with national in government?

Who knows. Bill English would have been PM. We only know what did happen in the past 6 years.

 

[Inruin]

Good speaker but preaching from the pulpit...in his speech & the one interview I heard he mentioned church (hmmm), not my go so didnt like that. Like that he values education but also don't like nationals answer to it.
Spoke about the opposition doesn't 'own' Maori etc - well neither does national (and preacher boy won't either), but they sure as hell are acting like they do with the 100-day plan they've put out.
And before anyone starts chiming in on all the misunderstood and misrepresnted tropes around things like te tiriti, equality, monies Maori access, and every other talking point around Maori, and yes, some who call themselves Maori, do a bit of real research, learn about the past 200 odd years and get some understanding of their point of view - and social media or biased media and professional politicians isn't research - maybe then you might come up with an enlightened viewpoint.
Just to add, personal responsibility is a key point & totally agree, but not easy when its been withheld from you through various means.
Rant over, let the games begin...

What do you see as a better answer as far as education is concerned?

 

[Damo]

The Maori party have said that the treaty is being abolished. That is complete misinformation. That's just one example.

Could you please point me to where this was said?

 

[Noitall]

Who knows. Bill English would have been PM. We only know what did happen in the past 6 years.

Think it was Bridges in charge at that time, then Muller, then Collins.

 

[juju]

The Maori party have said that the treaty is being abolished. That is complete misinformation. That's just one example.

You have continued to try and bag Luxon

He wiil make abortions illegal
He's not even ahead in the preferred PM poll
National should replace him as leader, they'll never get in to government with him leading
Luxon won't be able to negotiate a coalition agreement
Now, he got raw dogged

Your views appear to be more based on hope that Luxon will fail, yet so far nothing you have said about him has come off.

Like I said, there is no debate around Health, Education, Crime, the state of the economy or the books. That's incredibly telling.

There is no getting around the magistical failures of the previous government and how big the task of cleaning up and reversing that.

You're really on one today.

Care to show me where I have ever posted Luxon would make abortions illegal, or any of the other funny emoji points a part from the raw dog?

Are you saying Luxon's not a fundamental christian who personally believes abortion is tantamount to murder?
Or Willis doest have connections to Oil & Gas Industry?
Or Bishop wasn't lobbyist for the smoking industry?
Or Reti doesn't have shares in a private hospital in Whangarei?

Or that Act have connections to the NRA?

If you're so concerned about the state of the country keep it real 100% - instead of deluding your self things will be magically be better despite the shit show being served up

Middle age men resorting to emojis ~!

 

[juju]

Could you please point me to where this was said?

He's gone off the deep end.

 

[John Nick]

Think it was Bridges in charge at that time, then Muller, then Collins.

Please don't pick on Inruin. We all know it was hard to keep up with who was doing what in National then.
Not much has changed

 

[Inruin]

Think it was Bridges in charge at that time, then Muller, then Collins.

Bill English lost the election. If National were in charge it would have meant they won the election and English would have been PM

 

[juju]

Bill English lost the election. If National were in charge it would have meant they won the election and English would have been PM

If Logan Swan passed the ball

 

[John Nick]

Bill English lost the election. If National were in charge it would have meant they won the election and English would have been PM

If my Auntie had balls she would be my uncle

 

[Inruin]

You're really on one today.

Care to show me where I have ever posted Luxon would make abortions illegal, or any of the other funny emoji points a part from the raw dog?

Are you saying Luxon's not a fundamental christian who personally believes abortion is tantamount to murder?
Or Willis doest have connections to Oil & Gas Industry?
Or Bishop wasn't lobbyist for the smoking industry?
Or Reti doesn't have shares in a private hospital in Whangarei?

Or that Act have connections to the NRA?

If you're so concerned about the state of the country keep it real 100% - instead of deluding your self things will be magically be better despite the shit show being served up

Middle age men resorting to emojis ~!

All of those things you have alluded to.

Again you start dribbling on. But... But.. tobacco lobbyist....

Things are already better because we don't have the previous government spending and not delivering. Notice you arent arguing that they were good? No, it's just the same oh Chris Luxon is a Christian, Willis's dad, blah blah blah. Let's carry on down that track if that's the line you want to head down and talk about the apple not falling far from the tree with Grant Robertson and his handling of the books.

I'm not deluding myself. It's not going to be anywhere near perfect. It will be and already us an improvement. Deluded is pretending that everything was good and they are so much worse now.

Emojis. That's about your level

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You've got a neoliberal answer for everything. Act will do you proud

No, personal experience and simple human nature.

 

[Inruin]

Is this true? He spoke like she worked her way out of poverty and pulled herself up by her bootstraps, bit hypocritical if it is true.

His entire speech is there to listen to.

 

[Worried2Death]

His entire speech is there to listen to.

Just listened, food for thought. His childhood was saved by the welfare system by sound of it.

 

[Inruin]

If Logan Swan passed the ball

DWZ wouldn't have caught it

 

[Worried2Death]

DWZ wouldn't have caught it

Rocco would have, and offloaded for Dallin to score in an impossible position

 

[Inruin]

Rocco would have, and offloaded for Dallin to score in an impossible position

But Rocco can do anything. Including time travel apparently.

Rocco and the multiverse of awesomeness.

 

[John Nick]

But Rocco can do anything. Including time travel apparently.

Rocco and the multiverse of awesomeness.

Yeah juju. Definitely the deep end.

 

[Worried2Death]

Yeah juju. Definitely the deep end.

I still can't understand how such productive members of society can be on here all day talking bollox about the Warriors, no wonder the economy's in ruins.

 

[juju]

All of those things you have alluded to.

Again you start dribbling on. But... But.. tobacco lobbyist....

Things are already better because we don't have the previous government spending and not delivering. Notice you arent arguing that they were good? No, it's just the same oh Chris Luxon is a Christian, Willis's dad, blah blah blah. Let's carry on down that track if that's the line you want to head down and talk about the apple not falling far from the tree with Grant Robertson and his handling if the books.

I'm not deluding myself. It's not going to be anywhere near perfect. It will be and already us an improvement. Deluded is pretending that everything was good and they are so much worse now.

Emojis. That's about your level

Alluded to??? and your definite statements about what I said - all the while mentioning misinformation and the manic media.

I'm embarrassed how supporters of the coalition have been posting here?

You can't handle the facts about the background of the National top 4? Just facts...

I never took you for a "eyes too close together" guy like Wiz.