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[juju]

His face is matching the shade of red in the background, he doesn’t like being challenged. The debates are going to be fascinating.

Jack Tame is turning into a pretty formidable broadcaster too - owns both sides regularly

 

[PullingTeets]

What an absolute train wreck, I thought the Willis interview was embarrassing but fuck me Luxons an utter moron.

 

[Noitall]

Jack Tame is turning into a pretty formidable broadcaster too - owns both sides regularly

Hope NZ on air can keep the funding for the show. Could see a government seeing a show like that as being unhelpful for being questioned. Used to like Dallow as presenter but think Tame is doing exactly what you say. Much stronger than the little redhead on newshub nation.

 

[Noitall]

What an absolute train wreck, I thought the Willis interview was embarrassing but fuck me Luxons an utter moron.

That was just a snippet. If you didn’t see the whole thing it was worse. Willis and luxon’s projections on trust them, they know.

 

[John Nick]

That was just a snippet. If you didn’t see the whole thing it was worse. Willis and luxon’s projections on trust them, they know.

Luxons go to phrase "I am determined " with no facts.
I think we have heard this all before.

 

[juju]

 

[PullingTeets]

That was just a snippet. If you didn’t see the whole thing it was worse. Willis and luxon’s projections on trust them, they know.

Haha watched the whole thing, it looked like Luxon wanted to take a swing at Tame.
There was a whole lot of "trust me bro" when it came to Nationals workings.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I think Tame has a place but his format is wrong.

He gets into real detail and throws out heaps of facts and figures that require in depth analysis and a complex conversation… but then wants a one line answer. A sound bite.

He cuts you off if you try to explain with the depth the question deserves and then jumps to the next topic. Looking for the next gotcha moment.

And not defending Luxon as he does it for both sides

In reality he should have a different format with a lot more time and ability to really delve into topics. His format where he goes into so much depths doesn’t allow an adequate response and add value.

I’m saying all that it’s good someone asks the tough questions and cuts through a lot of the PR hype. One of the few that actually holds people to account.

 

[John Nick]

I think Tame has a place but his format is wrong.

He gets into real detail and throws out heaps of facts and figures that require in depth analysis and a complex conversation… but then wants a one line answer. A sound bite.

He cuts you off if you try to explain with the depth the question deserves and then jumps to the next topic. Looking for the next gotcha moment.

And not defending Luxon as he does it for both sides

In reality he should have a different format with a lot more time and ability to really delve into topics. His format where he goes into so much depths doesn’t allow an adequate response and add value.

I’m saying all that it’s good someone asks the tough questions and cuts through a lot of the PR hype. One of the few that actually holds people to account.

Luxon still avoided the first major question of where he would place the people when they were removed from state or emergency housing.
This has been a great problem where do they go.
I agree that we in the main shouldn't have to provide accommodation for them and when they disrespect the privilege are out.
Where do we put them. Still waiting

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Luxon still avoided the first major question of where he would place the people when they were removed from state or emergency housing.
This has been a great problem where do they go.
I agree that we in the main shouldn't have to provide accommodation for them and when they disrespect the privilege are out.
Where do we put them. Still waiting

My comment was around Tame’s style rather than Luxon.

But the housing solution is building more houses and everyone seems to agree. How do we get that?

1 - Lower costs to build so get Labours inflation problem under control
2 - make investment in property viable so undo all Labours anti landlord stuff
3 - open up land supply so redo the RMA
4 - force councils to open up land by funding councils to install infrastructure

It’s a bit more complicated than a gotcha ‘how much are you going to drop rents in your houses mr Luxon’

 

[tyrael]

Tame is a better Hosking. He's tough and unrelenting.

Hosking are both those things but his nose is so far up Nationals butt he might find Soni Luke's finger in there.

 

[Noitall]

Tame is a better Hosking. He's tough and unrelenting.

Hosking are both those things but his nose is so far up Nationals butt he might find Soni Luke's finger in there.

Tame would be good in charge of the debates.

 

[John Nick]

My comment was around Tame’s style rather than Luxon.

But the housing solution is building more houses and everyone seems to agree. How do we get that?

1 - Lower costs to build so get Labours inflation problem under control
2 - make investment in property viable so undo all Labours anti landlord stuff
3 - open up land supply so redo the RMA
4 - force councils to open up land by funding councils to install infrastructure

It’s a bit more complicated than a gotcha ‘how much are you going to drop rents in your houses mr Luxon’

Understand your comments on Tame.
We are still going to have a problem with those people who don't fit into society yet expect housing to be a right instead of earned.
This is a generational issue.
At the moment it's Labours problem.
I am interested to hear from Luxon what his plans are but he dodged it

 

[John Nick]

The other issue I have with national and Luxon is the tax policy.
This apparently is nothing new from national.
Key was interested but soon changed his mind.
Legal grounds??
Unworkable??
Before I vote for national I want to know

Willis is convinced it's OK.
Luxon is "believe me".
If this policy is flawed so is their entire plan for taxation with no backup

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

The other issue I have with national and Luxon is the tax policy.
This apparently is nothing new from national.
Key was interested but soon changed his mind.
Legal grounds??
Unworkable??
Before I vote for national I want to know

Willis is convinced it's OK.
Luxon is "believe me".
If this policy is flawed so is their entire plan for taxation with no backup

Storm in a teacup… if they raise nothing it just means borrowing a few hundred million for that part of the plan.

Labour are borrowing $35 billion more than they forecast in December last year.

Herald quote: ‘This would add to a string of previous upward revisions, which would see Treasury issue $35b (or 35 per cent) more debt over the four-year period than expected in December.’

Labour has lost in 9 months twice the whole National tax policy for the next 4 years, let alone quibbling over the minor details. Just let that sink in…

Really. Let it sink in! The magnitude of Labours economic management.

Nationals question marks (and there is experts both ways on if it’s achievable) are absolutely trivial compared with the known incompetence of Labour. There shouldn’t even be media question marks, the media should be crucifying labour. Yet people are buying into the PR spin that National are bad economic managers.

Debt blowout: Govt expected to borrow $35b more than planned eight months ago

Economists warn the next government won't have much cash to splash.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Bruce]

Jack Tame is turning into a pretty formidable broadcaster too - owns both sides regularly

This morning he launched Kiwibuild Nationals version!!

 

[John Nick]

Storm in a teacup… if they raise nothing it just means borrowing a few hundred million for that part of the plan.

Labour are borrowing $35 billion more than they forecast in December last year.

Herald quote: ‘This would add to a string of previous upward revisions, which would see Treasury issue $35b (or 35 per cent) more debt over the four-year period than expected in December.’

Labour has lost in 9 months twice the whole National tax policy for the next 4 years, let alone quibbling over the minor details. Just let that sink in…

Really. Let it sink in! The magnitude of Labours economic management.

Nationals question marks (and there is experts both ways on if it’s achievable) are absolutely trivial compared with the known incompetence of Labour. There shouldn’t even be media question marks, the media should be crucifying labour. Yet people are buying into the PR spin that National are bad economic managers.

Debt blowout: Govt expected to borrow $35b more than planned eight months ago

Economists warn the next government won't have much cash to splash.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Always good to hear your thoughts

 

[John Nick]

Storm in a teacup… if they raise nothing it just means borrowing a few hundred million for that part of the plan.

Labour are borrowing $35 billion more than they forecast in December last year.

Herald quote: ‘This would add to a string of previous upward revisions, which would see Treasury issue $35b (or 35 per cent) more debt over the four-year period than expected in December.’

Labour has lost in 9 months twice the whole National tax policy for the next 4 years, let alone quibbling over the minor details. Just let that sink in…

Really. Let it sink in! The magnitude of Labours economic management.

Nationals question marks (and there is experts both ways on if it’s achievable) are absolutely trivial compared with the known incompetence of Labour. There shouldn’t even be media question marks, the media should be crucifying labour. Yet people are buying into the PR spin that National are bad economic managers.

Debt blowout: Govt expected to borrow $35b more than planned eight months ago

Economists warn the next government won't have much cash to splash.

www.nzherald.co.nz

I actually agree with these policies just the execution is not factual.
John Key had the same ideas but soon dumped them for reasons of legality.
Jk has a lot more financial expertise than Willis Luxon and probably the entire parliamentary system

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Not a fan of this. Was precisely why I didn’t buy a diesel for the road user hassle.

 

[John Nick]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Not a fan of this. Was precisely why I didn’t buy a diesel for the road user hassle.

So actually nothing is going to change