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Rick O’Shay said:
The stats don't back that up JN and it was never mentioned by any pollie that the healthcare system couldn't cope. I've searched for examples but they all state everything is under control, Big Andrew was especially good at it.
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Really. Happened in Europe from memory.
Anyway I don't believe there was anything sinister going on just a lack of real time information and experiences.
Hope we can learn something from the enquiry because it will happen again.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
 

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Worried2Death said:
That's the plan we were sold after seeing the Italian health system collapse and the morgues overflowing. Don't think we got that first strain in nz, but I'm starting to forget the timelines.
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Again, somebody should have been looking at the statistics and data of who was actually dying. Europe and the US were well ahead of us in that. Even my 10 year old grandson said at the time, better watch out grandpa, this bug is getting you oldies.
 
Rick O’Shay said:
Again, somebody should have been looking at the statistics and data of who was actually dying. Europe and the US were well ahead of us in that. Even my 10 year old grandson said at the time, better watch out grandpa, this bug is getting you oldies.
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We knew it was killing the over 65 community and obese Americans, wasn't the whole plan to save you geriatrics? Talk about ungrateful koro.
 
John Nick said:
Really. Happened in Europe from memory.
Anyway I don't believe there was anything sinister going on just a lack of real time information and experiences.
Hope we can learn something from the enquiry because it will happen again.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing
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Yes, the health systems in Europe couldn't cope with the elderly and comorbidities but we were last cab off the rank and could have prepared for that. As I said, we were never told our health system was/would struggle with patients.
Agree, don't think it was sinister, just complete incompetence and a reluctance to take onboard help from experienced people and as is usual in these circumstances, once you're in the hole it can be damn hard to climb out with any credibility.
Anyways, enough said, I have an axe to grind with loss of family during the period and no access to terminal loved ones nor the ability to bring family home when needed. There is always an alternative if you're prepared to look hard enough.
 
Worried2Death said:
I thought the club was going to fold when we had no reserves and couldn't field a team and had to get loan players. Grandad George Jennings ffs. He turned out to be faster than all our previous wingers, that was quite an eye opener.
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It was. George became like Jonno Wright to me and I was disappointed we didn't give him a gig. He really did put out for us as did a couple of others.
Amazing to think of the shit that went down with the relocation, players bailing out, Kearney sacking, Ming the Merciless and here we are today, bigger faster, better, stronger, even if we have an injury toll that sucks. Just goes to show though that the development process and next man up is beginning to work
Our future is guaranteed, just hope I'm around long enough to see it
 
Rick O’Shay said:
Hahaha, funny. Came back from Perth on Sunday and bought a bottle of Aberlour single malt. Haven't tried it before, very dark and peaty. Nice
Bloody annoying though that the Big Barrel has it $10 cheaper than what I paid at duty free. Country is fucked
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Do you have a whiskey club in NZ? Filled up a cabinet from the Aus one in like 2 years
 
Rick O’Shay said:
She or her photographer sold the picture to a stock photo site.
While counting her cash she or Rafael forgot to read the fine print which says the photo site can do whatever they want with the image and are licensed to do so, including on selling it to anyone who wants to use it
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Wrong. Image was used incorrectly with the licence to Hobsons Pledge.

How about get shitty with Hobson's Pledge spending hundreds if not millions running misleading . marketing campaigns

Editorial use only’​

Stock image photography is a thriving business in New Zealand. News outlets around the country need images to illustrate their stories and, without in-house photographers, rely heavily on stock photography platforms to provide suitable photos. All manner of private businesses and government agencies also pay for stock imagery to use in various content.

At Waitangi Day celebrations in 2025, travel photographer Rafael Ben Ari took dozens of photos of landscapes and attendees. He licensed his photos to two stock imagery websites – iStock by Getty and Shutterstock – where they are labelled “editorial use only”, meaning they can only be used in a newsworthy or human interest context, for example to accompany news reporting (in this instance, most likely be reporting on Waitangi Day), rather than for commercial or promotional purposes.

It is unclear whether or not Tamati was aware that a photo of her was available on these platforms. Being filmed or photographed while in a public space is not in itself a breach of privacy, and few people ever see the photos of themselves that appear in these circumstances.
 
Rick O’Shay said:
Yes, the health systems in Europe couldn't cope with the elderly and comorbidities but we were last cab off the rank and could have prepared for that. As I said, we were never told our health system was/would struggle with patients.
Agree, don't think it was sinister, just complete incompetence and a reluctance to take onboard help from experienced people and as is usual in these circumstances, once you're in the hole it can be damn hard to climb out with any credibility.
Anyways, enough said, I have an axe to grind with loss of family during the period and no access to terminal loved ones nor the ability to bring family home when needed. There is always an alternative if you're prepared to look hard enough.
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You seem to be missing the point (in you're whiskey induced dementia), The covid response in NZ had total bipartisan support across the board.
 
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