Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[John Nick]

The stats don't back that up JN and it was never mentioned by any pollie that the healthcare system couldn't cope. I've searched for examples but they all state everything is under control, Big Andrew was especially good at it.

Really. Happened in Europe from memory.
Anyway I don't believe there was anything sinister going on just a lack of real time information and experiences.
Hope we can learn something from the enquiry because it will happen again.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing

 

[Rick O’Shay]

That's the plan we were sold after seeing the Italian health system collapse and the morgues overflowing. Don't think we got that first strain in nz, but I'm starting to forget the timelines.

Again, somebody should have been looking at the statistics and data of who was actually dying. Europe and the US were well ahead of us in that. Even my 10 year old grandson said at the time, better watch out grandpa, this bug is getting you oldies.

 

[Worried2Death]

Again, somebody should have been looking at the statistics and data of who was actually dying. Europe and the US were well ahead of us in that. Even my 10 year old grandson said at the time, better watch out grandpa, this bug is getting you oldies.

We knew it was killing the over 65 community and obese Americans, wasn't the whole plan to save you geriatrics? Talk about ungrateful koro.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Really. Happened in Europe from memory.
Anyway I don't believe there was anything sinister going on just a lack of real time information and experiences.
Hope we can learn something from the enquiry because it will happen again.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing

Yes, the health systems in Europe couldn't cope with the elderly and comorbidities but we were last cab off the rank and could have prepared for that. As I said, we were never told our health system was/would struggle with patients.
Agree, don't think it was sinister, just complete incompetence and a reluctance to take onboard help from experienced people and as is usual in these circumstances, once you're in the hole it can be damn hard to climb out with any credibility.
Anyways, enough said, I have an axe to grind with loss of family during the period and no access to terminal loved ones nor the ability to bring family home when needed. There is always an alternative if you're prepared to look hard enough.

 

[John Nick]

We knew it was killing the over 65 community and obese Americans, wasn't the whole plan to save you geriatrics? Talk about ungrateful koro.

Interesting that there was no pattern for who would be infected.
I never got it but my wife did twice and we never isolated from each other as we assumed I would get it also Never did.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

We knew it was killing the over 65 community and obese Americans, wasn't the whole plan to save you geriatrics? Talk about ungrateful koro.

And save me they did physically. Not sure about the mental bit and Warriors PTSD sure as hell doesn't help matters

 

[Worried2Death]

And save me they did physically. Not sure about the mental bit and Warriors PTSD sure as hell doesn't help matters

I thought the club was going to fold when we had no reserves and couldn't field a team and had to get loan players. Grandad George Jennings ffs. He turned out to be faster than all our previous wingers, that was quite an eye opener.

 

[John Nick]

And save me they did physically. Not sure about the mental bit and Warriors PTSD sure as hell doesn't help matters

At least you have a sure fire cure for your worries now Rick and it tastes pretty good.

 

[Worried2Death]

At least you have a sure fire cure for your worries now Rick and it tastes pretty good.

Triple malt is it, don't mind if I do gentlemen

 

[Rick O’Shay]

I thought the club was going to fold when we had no reserves and couldn't field a team and had to get loan players. Grandad George Jennings ffs. He turned out to be faster than all our previous wingers, that was quite an eye opener.

It was. George became like Jonno Wright to me and I was disappointed we didn't give him a gig. He really did put out for us as did a couple of others.
Amazing to think of the shit that went down with the relocation, players bailing out, Kearney sacking, Ming the Merciless and here we are today, bigger faster, better, stronger, even if we have an injury toll that sucks. Just goes to show though that the development process and next man up is beginning to work
Our future is guaranteed, just hope I'm around long enough to see it

 

[John Nick]

Triple malt is it, don't mind if I do gentlemen

 

[Worried2Death]

And an ounce of weed a day to keep the doctors away right Johnny, it's like a bloody bushfire at your place.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Triple malt is it, don't mind if I do gentlemen

Hahaha, funny. Came back from Perth on Sunday and bought a bottle of Aberlour single malt. Haven't tried it before, very dark and peaty. Nice
Bloody annoying though that the Big Barrel has it $10 cheaper than what I paid at duty free. Country is fucked

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Hahaha, funny. Came back from Perth on Sunday and bought a bottle of Aberlour single malt. Haven't tried it before, very dark and peaty. Nice
Bloody annoying though that the Big Barrel has it $10 cheaper than what I paid at duty free. Country is fucked

Do you have a whiskey club in NZ? Filled up a cabinet from the Aus one in like 2 years

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Do you have a whiskey club in NZ? Filled up a cabinet from the Aus one in like 2 years

Yes, if you are ever in the land of the free down here, call in

PS, can you bring some .50 Cal. Getting hard to get.

 

[juju]

She or her photographer sold the picture to a stock photo site.
While counting her cash she or Rafael forgot to read the fine print which says the photo site can do whatever they want with the image and are licensed to do so, including on selling it to anyone who wants to use it

Wrong. Image was used incorrectly with the licence to Hobsons Pledge.

How about get shitty with Hobson's Pledge spending hundreds if not millions running misleading . marketing campaigns

Editorial use only’​

Stock image photography is a thriving business in New Zealand. News outlets around the country need images to illustrate their stories and, without in-house photographers, rely heavily on stock photography platforms to provide suitable photos. All manner of private businesses and government agencies also pay for stock imagery to use in various content.

At Waitangi Day celebrations in 2025, travel photographer Rafael Ben Ari took dozens of photos of landscapes and attendees. He licensed his photos to two stock imagery websites – iStock by Getty and Shutterstock – where they are labelled “editorial use only”, meaning they can only be used in a newsworthy or human interest context, for example to accompany news reporting (in this instance, most likely be reporting on Waitangi Day), rather than for commercial or promotional purposes.

It is unclear whether or not Tamati was aware that a photo of her was available on these platforms. Being filmed or photographed while in a public space is not in itself a breach of privacy, and few people ever see the photos of themselves that appear in these circumstances.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Wrong. Image was used incorrectly with the licence to Hobsons Pledge.

Wrong. Politics is a human interest is it not?

 

[juju]

Yes, the health systems in Europe couldn't cope with the elderly and comorbidities but we were last cab off the rank and could have prepared for that. As I said, we were never told our health system was/would struggle with patients.
Agree, don't think it was sinister, just complete incompetence and a reluctance to take onboard help from experienced people and as is usual in these circumstances, once you're in the hole it can be damn hard to climb out with any credibility.
Anyways, enough said, I have an axe to grind with loss of family during the period and no access to terminal loved ones nor the ability to bring family home when needed. There is always an alternative if you're prepared to look hard enough.

You seem to be missing the point (in you're whiskey induced dementia), The covid response in NZ had total bipartisan support across the board.

 

[juju]

Wrong. Politics is a human interest is it not?

Wrong granddad.

It's a propaganda campaign to influence easily influence dunces.

Worked on you I guess.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

Wrong granddad.

It's a propaganda campaign to influence easily influence dunces.

Worked on you I guess.

You are missing the point my friend but understandable with an IQ of less than 32