Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

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The forum thread extensively discusses Donald Trump's legal battles and his 2024 presidential campaign, centering on fraud convictions, election eligibility disputes, and broader political implications. A central focus is the New York fraud case where Trump was fined over $350 million and barred from business roles, as outlined in #358, alongside ongoing debates about his appeal strategies. Eligibility challenges under the 14th Amendment are debated, particularly rulings in Colorado and Maine blocking him from primary ballots due to alleged insurrection ties, emphasized in #260#301. Participants analyze the fairness of these legal actions, with user #393 arguing that Trump faces numerous accusations but lacks criminal convictions, while others cite his civil liabilities. Nikki Haley's primary win in Washington D.C. is noted in #387, highlighting intra-party dynamics. The thread also explores broader concerns, including geopolitical risks under a potential Trump presidency and critiques of Republican policies, referencing abortion access impacts in #385. Throughout, there is polarization over Trump's guilt, political viability, and the implications for democracy.

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Trump's Legal Challenges, 2024 Election Campaign, Insurrection Allegations

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watcher said:
This argument goes roughly in 2 camps, first that Putin launched and unprovoked invasion in 2022. The second is that the conflict started in 2014 with a US backed coup that resulted in an anti Russian Government with neo nazi ties.
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The second is a conspiracy theory. Putin sows disinformation, he thrives on it. The second is bullshit.
 
Tragic said:
So would you be in favour of the decisions of the leader being prosecutable in NZ? So one example of how that might work is Jacinda made decisions during covid that lead to deaths, so she would be prosecuted for those deaths if proven; sure she made decisions that saved lives too but if you apply that law to the full extent that's irrelevant.
So essentially every leader would go to jail.

There needs to be a limit where you can't abuse human rights but in America if you let everyone who gets impacted by govt policy prosecute or sue what do you think the impact would be?
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We're talking Trump here - who has openly threatened to lock up those who are on his hit list, amongst many other deplorable acts. And the legislation change coincided with the prosecutions still being assme - that's a great word - assembled even around his attempted coup.
Tragic said:
So would you be in favour of the decisions of the leader being prosecutable in NZ? So one example of how that might work is Jacinda made decisions during covid that lead to deaths, so she would be prosecuted for those deaths if proven; sure she made decisions that saved lives too but if you apply that law to the full extent that's irrelevant.
So essentially every leader would go to jail.

There needs to be a limit where you can't abuse human rights but in America if you let everyone who gets impacted by govt policy prosecute or sue what do you think the impact would be?
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We're not talking about suing. We're talking about exonerating a grifting criminal dictator called Donald Trump.

If you're interested: https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/prog...o/2018726597/can-you-impeach-a-prime-minister
 
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Since Biden’s bumbled debate polls have shown a sharp drop in support for Biden.

Trump now leads in all battleground states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — according to political statistics service FiveThirtyEight’s averages.

Looks like we’re heading for Trump round 2 🤮
 
wizard of Tauranga said:
Since Biden’s bumbled debate polls have shown a sharp drop in support for Biden.

Trump now leads in all battleground states — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — according to political statistics service FiveThirtyEight’s averages.

Looks like we’re heading for Trump round 2 🤮
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They're trying to say Joe has Parkinsons now.

Michael J Fox should run for the Dems, everyone loves him don't they?
 
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