Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[wizard of Tauranga]

International Monetary Fund, in its latest Regional Economic Outlook, predicts that next year the New Zealand economy will have the second-lowest growth of the 159 nations it surveys

After six years of Labour, what is our excuse? We cannot say Covid: that was a pandemic, something that is worldwide.

Why does anyone seriously question Nationals tax plans instead of questioning Labour doing 10x the economic damage by mismanagement…

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

But is their policy even legal

No tax change is legal until the government passes law to make it legal

 

[Bruce]

Why does anyone seriously question Nationals tax plans

Because Labour are the Kiwibuld crowd, I forget what National are

 

[juju]

International Monetary Fund, in its latest Regional Economic Outlook, predicts that next year the New Zealand economy will have the second-lowest growth of the 159 nations it surveys

After six years of Labour, what is our excuse? We cannot say Covid: that was a pandemic, something that is worldwide.

Why does anyone seriously question Nationals tax plans instead of questioning Labour doing 10x the economic damage by mismanagement…

Maybe because National are electioneering on their tax policy rather than providing truly aspirational policy to improve New Zealand?
Giving tax "relief" is easy vote winners whereas well thought out policy to improve the state of the country is much more difficult.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Maybe because National are electioneering on their tax policy rather than providing truly aspirational policy to improve New Zealand?
Giving tax "relief" is easy vote winners whereas well thought out policy to improve the state of the country is much more difficult.

To be fair policy comes out daily so they are campaigning on a total package.

Labour claiming to be better economic managers is the biggest joke around while we’re in a recession with worse to come next year while the rest of the world is booming.

 

[juju]

National sent me a tax calculator to see how much better I would be under them:\

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How much better off you'll be with National​

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Total fortnightly saving under National: $0.00​

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The cost of living crisis has made it too hard for New Zealand workers to get ahead. National will manage the economy responsibly so you can keep more of what you earn. ​

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You cannot make this up​

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$40 a week for my house hold.
Ironically more under the Greens and they wouldn't be kicking power people to achieve the tax cut.

 

[juju]

To be fair policy comes out daily so they are campaigning on a total package.

Labour claiming to be better economic managers is the biggest joke around.

It is coming out everyday, but not aspirational really is it.

For a party with 8 x the funding & in opposition to an underwhelming government - this should be easy.

 

[Bruce]

$40 a week for my house hold.
Ironically more under the Greens and they wouldn't be kicking power people to achieve the tax cut.

I am not rch buddy, I want some money too

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

It is coming out everyday, but not aspirational really is it.

For a party with 8 x the funding & in opposition to an underwhelming government - this should be easy.

The election period only officially started last weekend

Party funding is pretty irrelevant except to spread your messages. All parties can only form policies based on the shit show set of books and basket case economy Labour has handed them.

 

[juju]

The election period only officially started last weekend

Party funding is pretty irrelevant except to spread your messages. All parties can only form policies based on the shit show Labour has handed them.

That's a very very naive take on how party funds are utilised.

 

[John Nick]

To be fair policy comes out daily so they are campaigning on a total package.

Labour claiming to be better economic managers is the biggest joke around while we’re in a recession with worse to come next year while the rest of the world is booming.

That's simply not true. Take a look at the financial predictions for our closest neighbors Australia.
Predictions are not good

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

$40 a week for my house hold.
Ironically more under the Greens and they wouldn't be kicking power people to achieve the tax cut.

The Greens policy would see the economy crash and burn and while you would get a tax cut the whole economy contracting would lower wealth, wages and increase poverty.

Name a country that’s wealthy and growing that removes the capital from the producers, investors and innovators?

It’s pretty clear countries that lower taxes thrive and ones like ours that have penalised and taxes business, like over the last few few years end up contracting and in recession.

 

[juju]

I am not rch buddy, I want some money too

I need some cash too - I just renewed my 2024 season membership at $300 a seat

 

[juju]

The Greens policy would see the economy crash and burn and while you would get a tax cut the whole economy contracting would lower wealth, wages and increase poverty.

Name a country that’s wealthy and growing that removes the capital from the producers, investors and innovators?

It’s pretty clear countries that lower taxes thrive and ones like ours that have penalised and taxes business, like over the last few few years end up contracting and in recession.

Which countries are thriving with lower taxes exactly?

 

[Bruce]

Which countries are thriving with lower taxes exactly?

oil states

 

[Bruce]

I need some cash too - I just renewed my 2024 season membership at $300 a seat

and you have to buy your finals tickets too bro

 

[juju]

and you have to buy your finals tickets too bro

and a GF ticket

 

[Worried2Death]

Labour claiming to be better economic managers is the biggest joke around while we’re in a recession with worse to come next year while the rest of the world is booming.

Wouldn't say China is booming, UK and EU consumers struggling with cost of living. Nats can't be any worse though, I hope.

 

[John Nick]

Wouldn't say China is booming, UK and EU consumers struggling with cost of living. Nats can't be any worse though, I hope.

Exactly. So booming is actually BS.
At least on here we should stick to the facts.
Unless taking the piss of course.

 

[miket12]

Mr Shaw is Turkish on his father's side. In all seriousness. There is always a cost associated with change. People want renewable resources and energy, free farmed meat, cage free eggs etc etc. Then they complain when the prices go up.

I just wonder if NZ is mature enough in the next twenty years to have a conversation about fusion reactors or if we will just sit behind the Nuclear Free legislation and not even consider it.