Post Match Manly v Warriors - [Round 27, 2025]

[BangBro's (still banging)]

Surely 8 Mile instrumental by Eminem for next week. That epic Choir thing is not it ay

Shapeshifter bro, cant go outside the square.

 

[Beastmode]

All blacks enter the field with the same song as Warriors

Can’t believe you watch that crap

Who won?

 

[Dannevegas]

Can’t believe you watch that crap

Who won?

I only watch it for the Boks, after watching that chasing the sun Documentary

 

[CWC]

Can’t believe you watch that crap

Who won?

World champions trying to break ABs’ 31 year unbeaten Eden Park record, ABs held on by 7 points with another Ardie Savea special at the death in his 100th. The theater and drama is about 100x better than what the Wahs put up for the last 2 months

 

[pleatedpantspete]

Everyone still mad?

We’ve had a great season, undone by some unlucky injuries to key players.

Realistically we needed to be lucky to be contenders this year

We will be much better off for the experience this season. This season makes webby our third most successful coach after Cleary and Anderson.

Heaps of positives but realistically we were just missing a couple of elements this season. Trajectory is looking great though.

+ DCE has killed us with field goals time and time again. Nothing new.

Off to enjoy the finals season with zero expectations.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

So far , What I've taken from this post gameday thread is Bay39er & Bangbros are cunts, One is a video ref, The other claims none of us are.

Damo & Warrior92 are about to be in a forever relationship. They agree on everything. And they are apparently right about everything....How cute

Metcalf & Barney caused the collapse.

It wasn't the refs fault, It was Nuikores for missing all our tackles, Not being able to pass, kick or catch. Ruling incorrectly that Manly scored - But they didn't. And Marata kept jamming in off of "His wing" opposition scores.

Capewell made a break and no one was in support because CNK makes 900 metres a game. CHT & Roger got bowled over and took 5 business working days to get back up. And Fish the Muss is allowed several off days all year cos he's Fish & a protected fishy.

You and Sup and the others questioning RTS ability at wing need your heads read. He is not the problem. Yes he doesn't have top end speed but he has every other attribute a winger needs plus others and has been outstanding this season. He is literally without Metcalf our best back line player and the last player that needs critisism.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

How can anyone keep watching this lot (especially after tonight) and not see that fundamentally the players are not good enough and no coach can correct that.

Capewell makes a break down the left flank, he is slow as, but doing his best, there is no one with him, this is not a one off scenario, this is a really good illustration of the truth that every back on that left edge is not good enough at one fundamental of football codes....support.

CNK was not there. He gets a small reprieve because a fullback cannot be everywhere all of the time, despite what people think.

None of our halves support, they do not get a pass, because Metcalf does it every time. The answer is CHT and Boyd are not good enough.

Our Left Winger who everyone praises for returns is a failure as an attacking player for not running after his slow Second rower.

Our Center is not there, that is another fail at NRL level.

Every back on that side of the field is not good enough.

Now go to the right edge and the issues are the same.

I did not want to get into putting our players down - but if it comes to this bullshit idea that somehow Andrew Webster is supposed to make good players out of our rubbish line up then I am gonna scream.

Webster did a brilliant job with Crap. And if people think throwing Sio Kali and Fatialofa in there they are kidding themselves, those blokes don't know how to tackle to an NRL standard yet.

This is just not right and from someone who is so defensive of player criticism(Pompey and rightly so) You are saying RTS is not a good enough left winger in the NRL? What's more concerning is you have a tonne of fans supporting this with their likes.

Aside from Metcalf who's season ended very early you can not say anyone has been a better back than RTS. I can not believe he's been singled out....I believe in the play Capewell made the break he had made the previous hit up which is one of his core roles to help out his forwards. We can criticise a lot of players but how do we criticise one of the best wingers in the comp?

 

[tajhay]

This is just not right and from someone who is so defensive of player criticism(Pompey and rightly so) You are saying RTS is not a good enough left winger in the NRL? What's more concerning is you have a tonne of fans supporting this with their likes.

Aside from Metcalf who's season ended very early you can not say anyone has been a better back than RTS. I can not believe he's been singled out....I believe in the play Capewell made the break he had made the previous hit up which is one of his core roles to help out his forwards. We can criticise a lot of players but how do we criticise one of the best wingers in the comp?

Hes simply stating facts though isnt he? It should be the fundamental skill for a player in that zone where the linebreak was made to be within atleast 10 metres as a support player, irrespective of how good a player has been for the rest of the season. Would DWZ have been criticised had the break been made on his side? Absofuckinglutely. So why not RTS?

Roger is used as a one up battering ram rather than as a winger.

Same with CNK, where his metres up the guts is of more important to this game model than actual threat he can provide chiming into the attack or support ball carriers.

Our gane plan revolves around first 3 runs used by the back 3. Next 2 by forwards coming back into the line. And then looking shellshocked as to what to do on the last.

I dont blame the players, its the game we are playing. It has yielded results (our ladder position is much higher than the team should be on paper).

its worrying that this conservative approach isnt likely to change next season with our inability to add gamebreaking ability/speed into the backline. The back 3 are only going to be a year slower. Only hope is for Ali/Berry to come right and show us their promised talents we have perservered into developing.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

Hes simply stating facts though isnt he? It should be the fundamental skill for a player in that zone where the linebreak was made to be within atleast 10 metres as a support player, irrespective of how good a player has been for the rest of the season. Would DWZ have been criticised had the break been made on his side? Absofuckinglutely. So why not RTS?

Roger is used as a one up battering ram rather than as a winger.

Same with CNK, where his metres up the guts is of more important to this game model than actual threat he can provide chiming into the attack or support ball carriers.

Our gane plan revolves around first 3 runs used by the back 3. Next 2 by forwards coming back into the line. And then looking shellshocked as to what to do on the last.

I dont blame the players, its the game we are playing. It has yielded results (our ladder position is much higher than the team should be on paper).

its worrying that this conservative approach isnt likely to change next season with our inability to add gamebreaking ability/speed into the backline. The back 3 are only going to be a year slower. Only hope is for Ali/Berry to come right and show us their promised talents we have perservered into developing.

Ok I need to watch the tape again, hasn't he made one of his many hit ups? Or are you suggesting regardless of what he does with extra work, he should have been in position for that play.

 

[Beastmode]

Hes simply stating facts though isnt he? It should be the fundamental skill for a player in that zone where the linebreak was made to be within atleast 10 metres as a support player, irrespective of how good a player has been for the rest of the season. Would DWZ have been criticised had the break been made on his side? Absofuckinglutely. So why not RTS?

Roger is used as a one up battering ram rather than as a winger.

Same with CNK, where his metres up the guts is of more important to this game model than actual threat he can provide chiming into the attack or support ball carriers.

Our gane plan revolves around first 3 runs used by the back 3. Next 2 by forwards coming back into the line. And then looking shellshocked as to what to do on the last.

I dont blame the players, its the game we are playing. It has yielded results (our ladder position is much higher than the team should be on paper).

its worrying that this conservative approach isnt likely to change next season with our inability to add gamebreaking ability/speed into the backline. The back 3 are only going to be a year slower. Only hope is for Ali/Berry to come right and show us their promised talents we have perservered into developing.

Very astute analysis.


Our attack is summed up pretty clearly here.. Back 3 take the first 3 hit ups. Up the guts and eat the meters back to the break even point where the ball was kicked. Maybe one or two more tackles to try and get to the 20mm mark. Then the 5th tackle uncontested Boyd bomb…

hope opposition make a mistake… if not repeat again .. and again … and again….so non threatening one dimensional and predictable…….

 

[tajhay]

Ok I need to watch the tape again, hasn't he made one of his many hit ups? Or are you suggesting regardless of what he does with extra work, he should have been in position for that play.

He may have. Im not blaming the player, im blaming the game model. Whats more important - his 9/10 metres in the carry or being available when a linebreak is made? Why did we even go that side knowing we had one less player on the side? Why was not a single warriors player in frame? Was Capewell the only player on that side and he made the break?

Once again im not blaming the player. Our players dont look for offloads or supports due to the conservative gameplan where territory and field position is being prioritised. Same way we dont contest bombs.

We look boring and clueless in attack because we are actually trying to play that way.

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

He may have. Im not blaming the player, im blaming the game model. Whats more important - his 9/10 metres in the carry or being available when a linebreak is made? Why did we even go that side knowing we had one less player on the side? Why was not a single warriors player in frame? Was Capewell the only player on that side and he made the break?

Once again im not blaming the player. Our players dont look for offloads or supports due to the conservative gameplan where territory and field position is being prioritised. Same way we dont contest bombs.

We look boring and clueless in attack because we are actually trying to play that way.

doesn't every teams wingers make hit ups early in the set? I would have thought that was one of the main reasons for moving him to wing?

Aside from that I 100% agree. Our game plan and support play is just awful....our support play has always been terrible

 

[Beastmode]

The only other sport I follow is the nba. These guys practice their craft to perfection. They are after all professional players. Baffles me how our “professional “ players still can’t read a play, catch a ball or know how to tackle.

Our inability to play expansive football cause we don’t have the skills as professionals to learn skip passes, offloads chip kicks, feds, reeks of amateurism…. how is it not possible to learn and develop these skills as a full time professional? What am I missing…?

 

[The Warrior Waka]

You and Sup and the others questioning RTS ability at wing need your heads read. He is not the problem. Yes he doesn't have top end speed but he has every other attribute a winger needs plus others and has been outstanding this season. He is literally without Metcalf our best back line player and the last player that needs critisism.

Ok. He's the man. But still slow, Am I lying? Check my head if you must. Its scary in there tho.

 

[Dannevegas]

Ok. He's the man. But still slow, Am I lying? Check my head if you must. It’s scary in there tho.

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What do u suggest we do about it then? We only have one quick back in cup and Grade and that’s Sio Kali. Not even Taine is quick.
He’s quicker than Charnze and Pompey, and can beat a man 5 different ways

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

We look boring and clueless in attack because we are actually trying to play that way.

Spot on!

The worst part of our conservative game plan is it puts no stress on the opposition, who end up having a high completion game themselves.

Where our game plan relies on opposition making mistakes, the lack of pressure in attack undermines this, hence the even score line week after week and occasionally dominating possession and territory and still losing.

It’s a frustrating model…

 

[Damo]

Spot on!

The worst part of our conservative game plan is it puts no stress on the opposition, who end up having a high completion game themselves.

Where our game plan relies on opposition making mistakes, the lack of pressure in attack undermines this, hence the even score line week after week and occasionally dominating possession and territory and still losing.

It’s a frustrating model…

I find the frustration interesting (not just from you) as the Panthers have literally won the last four premierships using this model.

 

[3rdstriker]

You and Sup and the others questioning RTS ability at wing need your heads read. He is not the problem. Yes he doesn't have top end speed but he has every other attribute a winger needs plus others and has been outstanding this season. He is literally without Metcalf our best back line player and the last player that needs critisism.

He's a great winger but he's a one man band without any distribution ya hardly see him pass these days.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I find the frustration interesting (not just from you) as the Panthers have literally won the last four premierships using this model.

I find it ironic that V’Landys prioritised entertainment, speeding up the game and positive football and we’ve ended up with defensive, grinding, high work rate teams dominating.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

The only other sport I follow is the nba. These guys practice their craft to perfection. They are after all professional players. Baffles me how our “professional “ players still can’t read a play, catch a ball or know how to tackle.

Our inability to play expansive football cause we don’t have the skills as professionals to learn skip passes, offloads chip kicks, feds, reeks of amateurism…. how is it not possible to learn and develop these skills as a full time professional? What am I missing…?

The main reason IMO is we don't have a lot of players with the smarts
They seem to struggle with the basics like cart the ball up without making a mistake or giving away a penalty, never mind the flash stuff like putting people into gaps, running decoys and creating space on the outside