Team List Bulldogs v Warriors - [Round 23, 2025]

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Just got to play well enough to take the ref out of the game.
While this is true, I generally hate this sentiment. So we have to be 20% better than other teams? How is that possible or logical? We NEED to get better at pushing rules and managing refs. We NEED a captain who is preferably an aussie representative (Steve Price being the optimal example). But if not an aussie rep, someone who is very good with the rules and the refs.

Webby's come from the Penreff system, and they have become as extreme as the storm at pushing the limits (see the weekends game). I hope Webby is working on building that platform. Not that we'll ever be able to push it as far as those teams, but we can and must do better. THAT is how you take the ref out of the game.

An obvious example is how Penrith give away a shit ton of infringements early in the games, primarily on their try line. They get given a longer leash, as we would certainly have had a bin pulling what they did against the titans, but it's smart. Ref puts the whistle away and you can continue to push things for the rest of the game, while only getting pinged at a similar rate to the other team.

Then when people whinge about the refs you can point to how you're one of the most penalised teams and have a moan yourself even though you should have twice as many.
 
While this is true, I generally hate this sentiment. So we have to be 20% better than other teams? How is that possible or logical? We NEED to get better at pushing rules and managing refs. We NEED a captain who is preferably an aussie representative (Steve Price being the optimal example). But if not an aussie rep, someone who is very good with the rules and the refs.
20% better is a number you made up and is no way based in fact. I can guarantee no ref purposefully goes out to favour one team every game they play, you are disciplined or you are not.

I do agree ref managing is definitely something we can improve on.
 
Happy to see Tuaupiki locked in at the back and CNK as centre going forward.

Was worried Webby would move CNK back to the back as I actually think he’s better suited their in poor weather, with Tuaupiki better in the dry.

Looks like CNK is our long term centre? Or if Berry comes back we shift everyone around again?
I would say it's more due to the absence of our two first choice centres in Berry and Leiataua.
 
20% better is a number you made up and is no way based in fact. I can guarantee no ref purposefully goes out to favour one team every game they play, you are disciplined or you are not.

I do agree ref managing is definitely something we can improve on.

I agree that 'no ref goes out there to favour one team', but jeeze Damo there's some pretty compelling arguments against us at times.

The thing that pisses me off the most though, is when the ref isn't consistent. As a ref, if you're going to call Wayde's try against the Knights a no try, there's no way that try where Marhew passes off the ground a try, yet it's given.

I think it was the game against Souths where Lattrel threw two massively forward passes right in front of the touchie who let it go, then a 40/20 attempt by Souths where the touchie is about 40m down field manages to see CNKs boot a milimeter on the sideline....

There are soo many examples of us getting penalized for something, then the ref allows the other team to do that same thing. It doesn't happen every game, but man it seems to happen to us often. Or, the refs seem to miss a
Something massive and obvious (like the TMM late/high shot against Dogs last year) that costs us an opportunity to win the game.
 
I agree that 'no ref goes out there to favour one team', but jeeze Damo there's some pretty compelling arguments against us at times.

The thing that pisses me off the most though, is when the ref isn't consistent. As a ref, if you're going to call Wayde's try against the Knights a no try, there's no way that try where Marhew passes off the ground a try, yet it's given.

I think it was the game against Souths where Lattrel threw two massively forward passes right in front of the touchie who let it go, then a 40/20 attempt by Souths where the touchie is about 40m down field manages to see CNKs boot a milimeter on the sideline....

There are soo many examples of us getting penalized for something, then the ref allows the other team to do that same thing. It doesn't happen every game, but man it seems to happen to us often. Or, the refs seem to miss a
Something massive and obvious (like the TMM late/high shot against Dogs last year) that costs us an opportunity to win the game.
It swings and roundabouts. We have had calls in our favour and calls against us.

Waydes try his elbow touched the deck, Marzhews his arm didn't. Technically both calls are correct.

We are going to notice the calls against us more than the calls that favour us due to our inherent bias.
 
Actually a really solid team, if Fish is fit, start him and run Ford off the bench. We may not beat the dogs but that lineup if it has the right attitude absolutely should be winning 3 or 4 out of titans, dragons, eels and manly
I reckon we win this, reckon we’ll be well up for it after last year getting dudded. I reckon Halasima getting called out by Cooper Cronk will have a steely edge in the effort areas
 
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Taine Tuaupiki 1
Adam Pompey 3
Adam Pompey
Right Centre
Tanah Boyd 7
Tanah Boyd
Halfback
Marata Niukore 8
Marata Niukore
Right Prop
Sam Healey 9
Jackson Ford 10
Jackson Ford
Left Prop
Leka Halasima 11
Leka Halasima
Right Second Row
Kurt Capewell 12
Kurt Capewell
Left Second Row Captain
Erin Clark 13
Te Maire Martin 14
Te Maire Martin
Interchange
Eddie Ieremia-Toeava 15
Demitric Vaimauga 16
Tanner Stowers-Smith 17
Freddy Lussick 18
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Andrew Webster
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