Pick Your Team Warriors v Tigers - [Round 19, 2025]

[forwardpass!]

Haha mate, before this year I was the President of the anti CHT fan club, but if you can't see how well he's going, that's more a you thing than a Webby thing.

This humble pie tastes okay, give it a chance!

I think he’s going ok
He’s all we got
Next month will tell us about the whole half 5/8 thing
Going into next year
He’s certainly better than last year

 

[3rdstriker]

Trying to be a half glass full kinda guy.

Yes, we lose Metcalf whose been killing it this year. But with both him and CNK out for the next 4 weeks, and against the Tigers, Knights and Titans it looks like we'll be able to muck around with a few of our options.

If we go TMM at fb, Taine on the wing (I'm assuming DWZ still out) and bringing Healey on to the bench I can see these positives and negatives:

Positives:
Better goal kicker (Tannah)
Better general kicking (Tannah)
More ball playing from the back (TMM)
More energy off the bench from dummy half (Healey)
More spark from wing (Taine)

Negatives:
Less meters from the back (CNK)
Cohesion and consistency (CNK, Metcalf)
Halves x factor (Metcalf)
No bench utility (TMM)

Unfortunately, so far Dallin hasn't been at his peak so I really don't think we lose anything from what we've had when Dallin's been playing this year.
As long as our forwards gain parity or dominate from the front, I think we'll go well. Excited to see what we can create. There could be a silver lining in these injuries....

Better general Defence from Taine too.

 

[kos]

Pretty sure that Boyd will have to come in as the 7 .
Why do you think that CHT won't supplement Boyd as he was doing with Metcalf.
Imo TMM hasn't been effective at 6.
He went missing last year when pairing with SJ
Was much better at 7.

CHT has done enough to stay at 6 - his defence is immense and he has set up try assists and scored tries.
Boyd comes in at 7 although CCES makes an interesting point.
I love TMM but he was poor at 6 with SJ.

But the big thing
Our forwards have got to go forward!

 

[Five&Last]

Do we think defence will be the top consideration when it comes to our Metcalf replacement? If so, Boyd has not defended on the right edge at all in 2025 where as TMM has in 6 NSW Cup games and has also lined up next to Berry before. Many seem to think Boyd is a certainty, but apart from picking Tuaupiki over Kosi to begin the season, history shows he tends to go back to the players he's previously put faith in

100% I would be very surprised if they picked Boyd over TMM for the 7

Seems to be a very wide spectrum of opinions on this selection, going to be interesting to read the team sheet in a week.

 

[John Nick]

CHT has done enough to stay at 6 - his defence is immense and he has set up try assists and scored tries.
Boyd comes in at 7 although CCES makes an interesting point.
I love TMM but he was poor at 6 with SJ.

But the big thing
Our forwards have got to go forward!

Couldn't agree more Kos

 

[forwardpass!]

CHT has done enough to stay at 6 - his defence is immense and he has set up try assists and scored tries.
Boyd comes in at 7 although CCES makes an interesting point.
I love TMM but he was poor at 6 with SJ.

But the big thing
Our forwards have got to go forward!

Yep

 

[Fangrl1234]

The way I see it - Webby will pick the team where there is the least amount of disruption.

 

[Dannevegas]

100% I would be very surprised if they picked Boyd over TMM for the 7

Seems to be a very wide spectrum of opinions on this selection, going to be interesting to read the team sheet in a week.

Not sure who I prefer for the 7, but I don’t think Boyd would’ve opted to stick around and take up his option if he was gonna be 3rd choice 7. I think the best balance might be 1. TMM 6. CHT 7. Boyd 14. Healey

 

[sup42]

Do we think defence will be the top consideration when it comes to our Metcalf replacement? If so, Boyd has not defended on the right edge at all in 2025 where as TMM has in 6 NSW Cup games and has also lined up next to Berry before. Many seem to think Boyd is a certainty, but apart from picking Tuaupiki over Kosi to begin the season, history shows he tends to go back to the players he's previously put faith in

Webster seems to have lost faith in TMM as a half option though (first he doesn't get the gig, then he gets used in a completely different role, then he gets told to look elsewhere next season, so I expect Boyd will get his shot. Webster does prefer guys with NRL experience where possible, but Boyd is an NRL player so that shouldn't hold him back.

Bit unfair on Boyd if he does not get his chance now, that would tell him he shouldn't have signed that extension surely.

 

[CWC]

I'd be shocked if Boyd's not picked as the 7 though, like, clearly Webby doesn't like TMM, you don't need to be a woman to see the vibe

 

[kos]

I'd be shocked if Boyd's not picked as the 7 though, like, clearly Webby doesn't like TMM, you don't need to be a woman to see the vibe

I wonder why that is . TMM strikes me as an old school genuine Kiwi .

 

[Billyspleen75]

Can we change the poll question to TMM/Boyd? Will be interesting to see what the split is?

 

[sup42]

Can we change the poll question to TMM/Boyd? Will be interesting to see what the split is?

I started a thread with a poll.

General Thread 'Metcalf - Halfback Replacement 2025'

Wednesday at 11:45 AM

Which is your preferred halfback/pairing for the remainder of the year?

There are two options to pick Boyd and only one configuration to pick TMM.

This was not an attempt to stack the odds in Boyds favor, merely a reflection that no one in the threads has entertained the extremely unlikely option that Martin plays halfback with Boyd as his six - whereas Boyd has an established partnership with TMM, and Channel is the incumbent six thus the two poll options for Boyd.

Channel was not considered for the Poll as his mums vote while precious doesn't add to the statistical significance of...

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[Dannevegas]

Brandon Norris to first grade. I dont care. Finally a winger in our ranks that runs at space, with pace

 

[BarnesNZ]

This is a bitter pill to swallow..after a stellar start to the season again we have lost all our stars..not just for a few games but season ending..Frustration just doesn't even explain it..Niokore needs to lead this team now.

 

[Christchurch_Warrior]

This is a bitter pill to swallow..after a stellar start to the season again we have lost all our stars..not just for a few games but season ending..Frustration just doesn't even explain it..Niokore needs to lead this team now.

Any team that loses their best prop and half back would struggle. Imagine the Raiders losing Tapine and Fogerty. Boyd will likely do a solid job but I have tempered my expectations. I hope we get more improvement out of our young guys so next year we can have a solid crack at the GF.

 

[Kaos A.D.]

Now that we don't have Metcalfs ability to score points out of nowhere, we'll need to make up those points from somewhere, we definitely need Laban and Leka to keep attacking kicks ala Eli Katoa which I think Boyd and Webby will continue with, as with the cross kick to DWZ when he's back, but I also think we need to start doing more offloads in and around the ruck, we need more flare, take risks or our points will dry up... TMM at fullback for mine with Tuaupiki on wing, just gives us more attacking and ball playing options, that means we can bring in Healey who can be another attacking option around the ruck instead of TMM holding a bench spot, we can't just rely on our defense and hope we score a try more than the opposition, we are at the pointy end of the season, we are going to have to score points with one of our main strikepowers gone... Tigers have points in them, to me this is a turning point game for us, at where we are and whether we just there to make up numbers in the finals series

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Now that we don't have Metcalfs ability to score points out of nowhere, we'll need to make up those points from somewhere, we definitely need Laban and Leka to keep attacking kicks ala Eli Katoa which I think Boyd and Webby will continue with, as with the cross kick to DWZ when he's back, but I also think we need to start doing more offloads in and around the ruck, we need more flare, take risks or our points will dry up... TMM at fullback for mine with Tuaupiki on wing, just gives us more attacking and ball playing options, that means we can bring in Healey who can be another attacking option around the ruck instead of TMM holding a bench spot, we can't just rely on our defense and hope we score a try more than the opposition, we are at the pointy end of the season, we are going to have to score points with one of our main strikepowers gone... Tigers have points in them, to me this is a turning point game for us, at where we are and whether we just there to make up numbers in the finals series

The problem was we were relying on Metcalf to make something from nothing BECAUSE our attacking weapons (wingers and second rowers) weren’t being set up.

It’s criminal that Leka and DWZ aren’t being put into holes. They are point scoring machine if used right.

Our halves were the main problem in attack, not the solution we’re going to be missing.

 

[Tookey 2.0]

The problem was we were relying on Metcalf to make something from nothing BECAUSE our attacking weapons (wingers and second rowers) weren’t being set up.

It’s criminal that Leka and DWZ aren’t being put into holes. They are point scoring machine if used right.

Our halves were the main problem in attack, not the solution we’re going to be missing.

Yeah I kinda agree. Metcalf was going great, but when you look at it, what was he actually doing well specifically?

Try assists? Not bad, but nothing miraculous.
Short kicking game? Not bad, but fairly middle of the road for an NRL half (last few weeks this looked to be improving).
Long kicking game? I would say below average for NRL level halves.
Goal kicking? Below average for an NRL half
Scoring tries? Above average for an NRL half.
Defence? About average for an NRL half

Metcalf was certainly growing as a half as the year went on, but overall as an NRL half he wasn't actually killing it in one particular area of his game. I feel that well lose a lot of his off the cuff play - his pace, his support play and his vision at times, but we'll also gain a shit load from Boyd leading us around, particularly with his kicking game and goal kicking.

I feel like with Metcalf, we were always kind of waiting for him to do something, or create for others, whereas Tannah will get us to the right parts of the field and give our players opportunity to compete, but I think we'll need our other attacking weapons to finish it off once we're in the red zone

 

[Kaos A.D.]

The problem was we were relying on Metcalf to make something from nothing BECAUSE our attacking weapons (wingers and second rowers) weren’t being set up.

It’s criminal that Leka and DWZ aren’t being put into holes. They are point scoring machine if used right.

Our halves were the main problem in attack, not the solution we’re going to be missing.

So if we had different halves we would be scoring more tries? I don't think it's as simple as that, sure ball playing halves may get the odd setup try but it negates what he can do by breaking the line and setting up other player, that's probably why I want TMM at fullback so he's another half in the line and he's a ballplayer, I do think Boyd is more like what you want and will use Leka and Laban cutting in and attacking gaps better then Metcalf was, so I'm all on board with him at halfback, I actually think he'll play Webby plan to a tee... But I also think we need more ball playing and attack around the ruck which I'm hoping Webby will start bringing in Healey just to give us other option... I thought Egan looked lackluster the last couple loses, no way I'm blaming him or any players really for our loses, but we need to step up our game in attack or I think we'll get left behind