TeamList Team List Tuesday (2023 Finals Week 2) - Warriors vs Knights

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Did Williame get injured again?

 

[francis]

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thanks Bud

 

[sup42]

Sup, are they the same as the compression ones wore by people with Lymphedema?

Can be yes.

Although obviously Lymphedema is more complicated and there are other things they can use to get that compression, sometimes it needs a lot more grunt than what SJ is wearing.

Btw TED stockings in those photos are really easy to identify, they have the characteristic thin bands at the top to ensure they keep the stocking fully covering the calves without restricting blood flow, and they are that distinctive thin white elastic material.

SJ would be wearing a fitted pair after taking measurement of his calves with tape. He will be in them all day and luckily for his Missus he can take them off at Bed time (not very sexy unless you are an 18th Century gentleman).

 

[sup42]

Warriors v Knights: Nine things to know about the Newcastle Knights ahead of Saturday’s home playoff game​

All you need to know about the Newcastle Knights, the side looking the end the Warriors’ season on Saturday night.

1) Hottest team in the NRL​

Newcastle have made one of the great playoff charges – they were so bad early in the season that coach Adam O’Brien was reportedly on the verge of being sacked.

By late June, they had won five from 15, and O’Brien’s overall win rate since 2020 was a middling 40 per cent.

But O’Brien has got the Knights into the finals in three of his four seasons in charge and they are on a 10-game winning streak, an incredible run by NRL standards.

2) The Ponga effect​

Fullback Kalyn Ponga is the key to his team’s attack.

While this could be said of just about every fullback in the NRL, Ponga is something special.

The Queensland State of Origin star has Kiwi ancestry and has played for New Zealand Māori. His parents are from New Zealand and the family lived in Palmerston North for five years during Ponga’s childhood. He was a gifted sports kid which included being an outstanding young golfer.

Ponga’s path has been far from smooth.

The 25-year-old contemplated retirement because of concussion issues. He even sought specialist help in Canada and pulled himself out of this year’s State of Origin, saying he wanted to focus on the Knights after so many interruptions. But he suffered another head ding against Canberra last week, and also went into that game with a problematic shoulder.

3) Air Young​

The Knights’ try-scoring sensation is giant English wing Dominic Young, who is Roosters-bound. When it comes to acrobatic try-scoring dives, Young is a good match for the Warriors flying Dallin Watene-Zelezniak. The two-metre tall Young is the NRL’s top try-scorer this year with 25. However, Young is also one of the most error-prone players in the NRL.

4) Auckland-born tackle buster​

The Knights’ other wing, Auckland-born Greg Marzhew, has a different build and brings a very different type of impact.

The 1.77 metres tall Marzhew is streets ahead of the pack when it comes to tackle busts. He has 173 for the season, way ahead of next-best Panthers fullback Dylan Edwards and Knights teammate Dane Gagai. Marzhew is also near the top of the run metres list and has an impressive 21 tries.

Marzhew, who is of Samoan heritage and was known as Greg Lelesiuao in Auckland, was a Mangere East junior and has played for the Junior Kiwis.

The youngster left his family to live with an uncle in Melbourne 12 years ago. Before setting his sights on the NRL, he competed as a hip-hop dancer.

Marzhew was signed by the Knights from the Titans prior to this season.

There have been questions around his defensive work in the past but he has a low error rate and is having a breakthrough time with the Knights thanks to his power-packed game.

5) Front and centre​

Which brings us to the Newcastle centres – Gagai and Bradman Best. This is one area where the Knights have a clear advantage over the Warriors.

Gagai is a big game specialist, with a wealth of test and State of Origin experience and a reputation for making big plays when they are needed. The giant Best is a player on the rise, making an impressive State of Origin debut for New South Wales this year.

They feature heavily when it comes to creating tries for the Knights.

6) Twin Origin stars​

The Newcastle pack includes identical twins Daniel and Jacob Saifiti, who have both played for Fiji and also have Samoan heritage.

Daniel was out of the blocks more quick;y, the first of the twins to win New South Wales selection. But Jacob is the current State of Origin representative. He starts for the Knights with Daniel coming off the bench.

While on that subject, Knights prop Leo Thompson is a New Zealander whose twin brother Tyrone is a hooker for the Chiefs and Hawke’s Bay rugby teams. The brothers went to Napier Boys’ High.

7) Twins galore​

The Knights pack also includes veteran test and State of Origin second-rower Tyson Frizell, the brother of All Blacks loose forward Shannon Frizell.

The brothers were brought up separately but are apparently pretty close. Shannon had to stay in Tonga because he was not allowed to join the family that adopted him when they lived in Australia.

Former Dragon Tyson Frizell has been among the Knights’ best this year.

8) Former Warrior brings the heat​

And another forward is Jack Hetherington, a former Warriors loan player and one of the most fiery players in the NRL. Coach O’Brien reportedly ordered Hetherington to calm down after he was sin-binned in quick succession this year.

9) Spine proving doubters wrong​

With Jackson Hastings in doubt because of injury, the Knights’ plans will probably centre around five-eighth Tyson Gamble, an NRL battler coming good.

A former Bronco – the victim of an alleged Jack Wighton bite last week - has a Street Fighter mentality made for a finals scrap away from home.

Despite the presence of Kalyn Ponga, the Knights’ spine was judged among the weakest in the NRL by many season previewers.

But they are proving doubters wrong, with a little-known Kiwi prospect at the heart of their golden run.

Hooker Phoenix Crossland is no star, but he is brave to the extreme and recently won his club’s Gladiator award selected by former players.

Utility Crossland has done an excellent job at dummy half, covering for injury. This has also made him a leftfield Kiwi selection – he was born in Wellington before his family shifted to Australia when he was still very young.

Warriors home playoff: 9 things to know about the Knights

Nine things you need to know about the Warriors' finals opponent.

www.nzherald.co.nz

Is that all?

 

[Stalefish540]

Does anyone have the good oil on SJ this week?

One would hope the physio has the good oil, but maybe they spent all their funds on the private jet. So who know's the quality they will be using on him, could be Woolworths Essentials butter.

 

[juju]

My mate said he reckons he'll play. Sounded confident too.

My mate is Rocco Berry and he said it on SENZ

Aman's mate

 

[Up the guttz]

'On the better side of playing': D-Day looms for SJ

Warriors coach Andrew Webster said all signs point to Shaun Johnson being physically able to play on Saturday night, ahead of a call being made on his fitness on Friday.

www.nrl.com

 

[run_it_str8_again]

Question for all you medical experts out there.

If SJ plays this week and is about 80%, and doesn't reinjure his calf...will it be 100% by next week or is the fact that he will play on it mean that it won't heal completely in time for the nek match?

There is no Nek match if we lose. So I'd have him in even if he ends up with as much strapping as Tohu.

 

[sup42]

'On the better side of playing': D-Day looms for SJ

Warriors coach Andrew Webster said all signs point to Shaun Johnson being physically able to play on Saturday night, ahead of a call being made on his fitness on Friday.

www.nrl.com

hmm I read good news and bad news.

So this is a calf tear and not a strain as we all hoped.

Webster is always confident and positive on his feedback so there is that.

Must be a micro tear or he is out for 6 weeks minimum.

It helps to know we are not dealing with something minor that can just be jabbed, that takes that part of the conversation away. There was zero chance he played last week despite what the club says.

 

[WarriorDave]

Aman's mate

 

[enterthewarrior]

I'll probably get grilled for this comment as I'm being selfish here. I know SJ isn't 100% but do you guys think he owes us to play this game seeing how it's a crucial game.

 

[Aman 2.0]

I'll probably get grilled for this comment as I'm being selfish here. I know SJ isn't 100% but do you guys think he owes us to play this game seeing how it's a crucial game.

How do you propose he play a full on contact sport that requires accelerations and endurance if he can’t run or move?

What are we even talking about here

 

[Aman 2.0]

hmm I read good news and bad news.

So this is a calf tear and not a strain as we all hoped.

Webster is always confident and positive on his feedback so there is that.

Must be a micro tear or he is out for 6 weeks minimum.

It helps to know we are not dealing with something minor that can just be jabbed, that takes that part of the conversation away. There was zero chance he played last week despite what the club says.

He deff ain’t playing. club been lying through their teeth (mostly Cam George so he can sell tickets) can’t believe he said SJ would have played if it was do or die?? He’s got a fucking calf tear.

Webster was much more measured but he was pissed at the airport that the cat had been let out of the bag so early. Pretty sure they flew SJ over so Penrith would be forced to change tact late when he was announced out on game day.

They are doing the same here but it’s pretty obvious why he’s “training seperate” to the team and won’t do any open media training The poor bugger can’t move

If he does play I don’t see him lasting more than 20 mins.

It is what it is

 

[Lance155]

He deff ain’t playing. club been lying through their teeth (mostly Cam George so he can sell tickets) can’t believe he said SJ would have played if it was do or die?? He’s got a fucking calf tear.

Webster was much more measured but he was pissed at the airport that the cat had been let out of the bag so early. Pretty sure they flew SJ over so Penrith would be forced to change tact late when he was announced out on game day.

They are doing the same here but it’s pretty obvious why he’s “training seperate” to the team and won’t do any open media training The poor bugger can’t move

If he does play I don’t see him lasting more than 20 mins.

It is what it is

Does your tinfoil match your Warriors jersey?

 

[Billyspleen75]

Does your tinfoil match your Warriors jersey?

He has that special Tinfoil Warriors pre-season jersey that they released sometime in the early 2010's

 

[MrFrankWhite]

He deff ain’t playing. club been lying through their teeth (mostly Cam George so he can sell tickets) can’t believe he said SJ would have played if it was do or die?? He’s got a fucking calf tear.

Webster was much more measured but he was pissed at the airport that the cat had been let out of the bag so early. Pretty sure they flew SJ over so Penrith would be forced to change tact late when he was announced out on game day.

They are doing the same here but it’s pretty obvious why he’s “training seperate” to the team and won’t do any open media training The poor bugger can’t move

If he does play I don’t see him lasting more than 20 mins.

It is what it is

Called the injury being way worse. NRL and CG want to sell tickets, SJ will want to play.

Explains the performance the last game. Everyone is shellshocked. Everyone is thinking "How can win the GF without SJ? And it looks like no one knows how to manage it. But that sort of thinking is what leads to failure.

We didn't prepare or deliver against Penrith, and I'm not sure we can against the Knights. It looks like Webby is trying to fit as many playmakers in as possible to make up for it, but jeez they actually have to play make.

 

[Stalefish540]

Called the injury being way worse. NRL and CG want to sell tickets, SJ will want to play.

Explains the performance the last game. Everyone is shellshocked. Everyone is thinking "How can win the GF without SJ? And it looks like no one knows how to manage it. But that sort of thinking is what leads to failure.

We didn't prepare or delivery against Penrith, and I'm not sure we can against the Knights. It looks like Webby is trying to fit as many playmakers in as possible to make up for it, but jeez they actually have to play make.

I think we'll be all good, Martin and Walker will have had a weeks worth of kicking practice. That's plenty of time, should be completely fine

 

[Defence]

Anyone heard of dry needling ? and know how effective it is for calf injuries ?

Yeah, I've done dry needling in my back and my gluts (ass) and it worked wonders both times. Is that what hes doing?
Interestingly I've also tried acupuncture and that done nothing for me. The difference is acupuncture targets pressure points while dry needling goes straight into the muscle and when it hits the spot its a hell of a sensation- feels like the muscle is melting.

 

[BabylonPink]

Can be yes.

Although obviously Lymphedema is more complicated and there are other things they can use to get that compression, sometimes it needs a lot more grunt than what SJ is wearing.

Btw TED stockings in those photos are really easy to identify, they have the characteristic thin bands at the top to ensure they keep the stocking fully covering the calves without restricting blood flow, and they are that distinctive thin white elastic material.

SJ would be wearing a fitted pair after taking measurement of his calves with tape. He will be in them all day and luckily for his Missus he can take them off at Bed time (not very sexy unless you are an 18th Century gentleman).

"Mother! Cover up those table legs, They're inflaming my sexual arder!"

 

[juju]

He deff ain’t playing. club been lying through their teeth (mostly Cam George so he can sell tickets) can’t believe he said SJ would have played if it was do or die?? He’s got a fucking calf tear.

Webster was much more measured but he was pissed at the airport that the cat had been let out of the bag so early. Pretty sure they flew SJ over so Penrith would be forced to change tact late when he was announced out on game day.

They are doing the same here but it’s pretty obvious why he’s “training seperate” to the team and won’t do any open media training The poor bugger can’t move

If he does play I don’t see him lasting more than 20 mins.

It is what it is

The club and NRL couldn't even co-ordinate a well done season membership pre-sale properly... but have a conspiracy to say SJ is available to play to sell tickets... CRIKEY.

He may be in doubt still but will be given the opportunity to prove his fitness at the captains run.