Post Match Knights v Warriors - [Round 9, 2024]

[Ever Hopeful]

So in the released audio from the bunker, the possibility of the penalty try wasn't even discussed.

So they didn't make a decision not to award it, they just didn't even think of it? Sounds about right, standard fare for the bunker.

 

[Noitall]

Was watching nrl 360 and found something Cooper Cronk said regarding Latrell Mitchell interesting. Reckons he wouldn’t shift him from fullback to centre because he could see souths going too lateral to get the ball to him. It’s something I’ve noticed in us this year that we’re going sideways with pretty poor shape often, but wonder if we’re doing it to get the ball to RTS? SJ is coming around to the left but centre and wing are so deep and opposition able to slide and bundle them towards the sideline. I’ve personally thought RTS looks really good aerially since his return and I’d put him on the wing with two good kick targets either side in DWZ and RTS, to go with the height of Berry on the right and likely Laban in time? Then you could have the height of Pompey and Capewell on the left? I’m not sure the strike centre, or at least RTS’s version is right for this team? Another thing Cronk said was we’re trying to play a panthers game in close to the line and go through with power but our forwards don’t possess the same power as panthers forwards

 

[Noitall]

So in the released audio from the bunker, the possibility of the penalty try wasn't even discussed.

So they didn't make a decision not to award it, they just didn't even think of it? Sounds about right, standard fare for the bunker.

How can that be the case when SJ was in discussions with the ref and the ref is speaking to the bunker and listening through earpiece? Surely the ref would have raised it since players on the field were saying it should be a penalty try? Sounds like nrl scrambling after it’s picked up momentum on a league platform. Rothfield said someone he knows was in contact with him and said he won’t be following nrl anymore after such a poor decision as no penalty try for DWZ. First time I’ve seen them pissed off on our behalf

 

[Wah u talkin about Wallis]

I think the betting agency's are pushing an agenda. That's why they are looking for a reason to give a No Try. They don't have to pay for any time try scorer.

 

[Bay39er]

So in the released audio from the bunker, the possibility of the penalty try wasn't even discussed.

So they didn't make a decision not to award it, they just didn't even think of it? Sounds about right, standard fare for the bunker.

And this post hits the nail squarely on the head.

When Annesley proudly said we will also play the audio from the bunker he dug the biggest hole for himself particularly when asked why it wasn’t a PT.

He passed it off as because in the opinion of the bunker a try wouldn’t have been scored yet as @Ever Hopeful says the audio showed the bunker didn’t even consider that aspect.

Also disappointing that the media didn’t follow up with the next most obvious question - why wasn’t the offender sin binned for a professional foul.

In summary we have:

The ref saying we don’t give PTs in these circumstances
O’Brien repeating that in his presser
Annesley saying there is no policy not to give a PT in these circumstances

One really has to wonder what clowns are running this show

 

[Makasene]

Was watching nrl 360 and found something Cooper Cronk said regarding Latrell Mitchell interesting. Reckons he wouldn’t shift him from fullback to centre because he could see souths going too lateral to get the ball to him. It’s something I’ve noticed in us this year that we’re going sideways with pretty poor shape often, but wonder if we’re doing it to get the ball to RTS? SJ is coming around to the left but centre and wing are so deep and opposition able to slide and bundle them towards the sideline. I’ve personally thought RTS looks really good aerially since his return and I’d put him on the wing with two good kick targets either side in DWZ and RTS, to go with the height of Berry on the right and likely Laban in time? Then you could have the height of Pompey and Capewell on the left? I’m not sure the strike centre, or at least RTS’s version is right for this team? Another thing Cronk said was we’re trying to play a panthers game in close to the line and go through with power but our forwards don’t possess the same power as panthers forwards

I'm convinced he needs to move to the wing and return the ball more from kicks plus being that target you speak of.

What's more difficult is I'm certain he is playing on the wrong side of the field. He has a left foot step so don't you want him beating his man on the outside rather than cutting in field?

 

[Mr Drag]

I'm convinced he needs to move to the wing and return the ball more from kicks plus being that target you speak of.

What's more difficult is I'm certain he is playing on the wrong side of the field. He has a left foot step so don't you want him beating his man on the outside rather than cutting in field?

This week he defends against Manu and we need a good defender like RTS against him

 

[Makasene]

This week he defends against Manu and we need a good defender like RTS against him

Pompey should be the starting left centre.

It's not even a debate in my eyes.

I would have more faith in Pompey locking down Manu than RTS

 

[Mr Drag]

Pompey should be the starting left centre.

It's not even a debate in my eyes.

I would have more faith in Pompey locking down Manu than RTS

Webby kept him on the bench all game, can't see him starting

 

[Mr Drag]

Just had a look at the last 2 game stats to see what we are doing wrong and one stat comes to mind, missed tackles! We average just over 40 missed tackles a game!

 

[mrblonde]

I think the betting agency's are pushing an agenda. That's why they are looking for a reason to give a No Try. They don't have to pay for any time try scorer.

Don't get your logic here? Trying to fix avoiding paying an "Any Time Try Scorer" bet, which is Such-And-Such Player Scoring a Try at any point between Minute 1 and Minute 80, is waayyyy too difficult without it being hugely obvious (ie no tries given to either team throughout the 80 or stopping that option a good hour before kickoff and fronting the match officials and saying "We'll lose shedloads of money if the Warriors 1, 5, 6, 7 and 8 and Knights 1, 4, 7, 9 score a try so DON'T BLOODY LET THEM!")

Just think it was incompetence in not knowing the rules from the bunker and the referee either not knowing he could intervene on the call (ie make a suggestion of penalty try) or not giving caring.

Be very amusing to see how situations like this are ruled on going forward from this weekend. I look forward to several different explanations/intepretations from the Bunker/Referees/Graham Annesley which will contradict the previous explanation/intrepretation...

 

[Makasene]

I think the betting agency's are pushing an agenda. That's why they are looking for a reason to give a No Try. They don't have to pay for any time try scorer.

Betting agencies have refunded many placed bets off the back of a perceived injustice / poor calls affecting results.

Betting agencies want you to win your bets, because they know you'll reinvest and lose!

Many of those who lose their money when officiating has had an effect on the result might not bet again

 

[snake77]

The way things go in this competition expect us to concede a penalty try in the next few weeks.

 

[John Nick]

Keep the faith john nick

Always .Going on for nearly 30 years.No sense in stopping now.

 

[Boats n Hoes]

I'm convinced he needs to move to the wing and return the ball more from kicks plus being that target you speak of.

What's more difficult is I'm certain he is playing on the wrong side of the field. He has a left foot step so don't you want him beating his man on the outside rather than cutting in field?

I'm not opposed to him swapping sides but if your playing on the left u can't beat a man on the outside with a left foot step, that would be a right foot step. So he's on the correct side if we're just going by his strongest stepping foot.

 

[CWC]

I'm not opposed to him swapping sides but if your playing on the left u can't beat a man on the outside with a left foot step, that would be a right foot step. So he's on the correct side if we're just going by his strongest stepping foot.

At 11 second is what I think he's talking about, the next scene was him doing a right foot lol


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsJg5TDi05w

 

[tyrael]

So in the released audio from the bunker, the possibility of the penalty try wasn't even discussed.

So they didn't make a decision not to award it, they just didn't even think of it? Sounds about right, standard fare for the bunker.

It's cooked because DWZ was in the act of scoring a try. Penalty try is off they would of scored a try vs could have.

Replays shows DWZ catch it cleanly. Without a tackle in the air, we would have landed on his feet and dropped to the ground to score.

For me it's a penalty try and a sin bin.

Penalty and sinbin at worst.

It's a joke it was only a penalty.

 

[tyrael]

Not sure if it's been posted. These guys are on our side! Never thought I would like James Graham.


View: https://youtu.be/Loj97d58vyc?si=No3AD65U8R-iUVfZ

 

[snake77]

It's cooked because DWZ was in the act of scoring a try. Penalty try is off they would of scored a try vs could have.

Replays shows DWZ catch it cleanly. Without a tackle in the air, we would have landed on his feet and dropped to the ground to score.

For me it's a penalty try and a sin bin.

Penalty and sinbin at worst.

It's a joke it was only a penalty.

If you take the defender away he not only catches it and lands on his feet. He'd likely have been able to run closer to the posts to make the kick easier. I know taking the defender out of play that much is a bit of a stretch. But it does show that him scoring was more of a possibility than the majority of other penalty tries that are given.

The explanation we don't give them for those and we are consistent is a weird one to me. Most tackles in the air are still in the field of play. This was a play over the line that caught the ball. All he needed was to land without the illegal play.


The other one that should be getting more attention if I have the incident correct. Is the Hastings going down and grabbing his leg. We get penalised and Jackson Ford I think it was got put on report. Even the commentators were perplexed what it was for. As it wasn't high, a grapple or a hip drop.

If it was the penalty that pushed the score from 6-0 to 8-0. It is another scoring play that was questionable. It was earlier in the game so plenty of time to work back from it, also to be forgotten. But in the wet as we saw scoring plays were hard to come by.

If that wasn't the play they kicked the penalty. Happy to be wrong as I'm just going off one viewing.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

If you take the defender away he not only catches it and lands on his feet. He'd likely have been able to run closer to the posts to make the kick easier. I know taking the defender out of play that much is a bit of a stretch. But it does show that him scoring was more of a possibility than the majority of other penalty tries that are given.

The explanation we don't give them for those and we are consistent is a weird one to me. Most tackles in the air are still in the field of play. This was a play over the line that caught the ball. All he needed was to land without the illegal play.


The other one that should be getting more attention if I have the incident correct. Is the Hastings going down and grabbing his leg. We get penalised and Jackson Ford I think it was got put on report. Even the commentators were perplexed what it was for. As it wasn't high, a grapple or a hip drop.

If it was the penalty that pushed the score from 6-0 to 8-0. It is another scoring play that was questionable. It was earlier in the game so plenty of time to work back from it, also to be forgotten. But in the wet as we saw scoring plays were hard to come by.

If that wasn't the play they kicked the penalty. Happy to be wrong as I'm just going off one viewing.

Was that the 3rd man in leg raise? Thats a no-no this season