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[tajhay]

I’m really glad we’ve got Chris Hodges to provide some independence to the process

Sorry just on the call with Chris and he seemed shocked that you bid so high to get Stacey Jones. Ricky Stuart seemingly was interested in reuniting with you. Hodges indicated that Stuart has no interest in playing for the Dictators if he is not the star attraction (means you will also need to let go off your 2 star centres)

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Sorry just on the call with Chris and he seemed shocked that you bid so high to get Stacey Jones. Ricky Stuart seemingly was interested in reuniting with you. Hodges indicated that Stuart has no interest in playing for the Dictators if he is not the star attraction (means you will also need to let go off your 2 star centres)

I’m sure Sticky will have no dramas playing alongside the younger SJ…

But Ricky is the star of any team he’s in. I’d have paid $5m for him!!

 

[tajhay]

But Ricky is the star of any team he’s in. I’d have paid $5m for him!!

Thats good news for any team wanting Stacey Jones in a trade where they give you salary cap space to sign him for his stint then

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

can we get a heads up on the positions again.

I’ve got Taine Tuaupiki who’s listed as a fullback but has played 1/3 of their games in the wing. What’s the impact if I play him on the wing in a position he’s not listed?

 

[tajhay]

can we get a heads up on the positions again.

I’ve got Taine Tuaupiki who’s listed as a fullback but has played 1/3 of their games in the wing. What’s the impact if I play him on the wing in a position he’s not listed?

A player needs to have played atleast 10 games in another position to have it as a secondary position. He does not qualify.

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You can still play him at wing. Fullback and Wing attributes are largely complimentary, however you would be relying heavily on his speed and agility in that position and his game sense attribute will not be utilised as much as it does in fullback for example where he needs to support, chime into the backline, act as a support playmaker etc. Also wings use power to take first few hitups in the set, so you may see him get ragdolled, similar to how he does in real life.

Purpose of the trials is to trial different combinations to see what works, what doesnt etc. He may be a great winger, especially if the centre beside him is very complimentary to his play style, who knows

 

[ShaunJohnson7]

Oh god I love this concept, sounds awesome. Can non players follow it at all, have a look around?

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Thats good news for any team wanting Stacey Jones in a trade where they give you salary cap space to sign him for his stint then

Moving along from taking the piss on Sticky, can you explain how this all works? Can you trade out a player for salary cap space?

 

[tajhay]

Oh god I love this concept, sounds awesome. Can non players follow it at all, have a look around?

Yeah ofcourse!
https://nzwarriors.com/ultimate-team/ (as a non franchise owner, you wont see all sections i.e. Game Plan, Training, Press, Trades) but you will be able to follow the season.

Currently auction rounds 7/8 are happening. Then trials and then the season starts. Non franchises can watch the broadcast of the games etc as well.

Maybe if you are still interested for next season, you can apply for a franchise from the main page to indicate your interest etc.

 

[tajhay]

Moving along from taking the piss on Sticky, can you explain how this all works? Can you trade out a player for salary cap space?

Yes.

I explained it in detail on this post : https://nzwarriors.com/threads/introducing-nzw-ultimate-team.1704/page-3#post-244040

If you still have questions let me know or want to provide an example scenario i can take you through it.

Maybe people will believe me how important having cap space left for trades is after reading that lol

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yes.

I explained it in detail on this post : https://nzwarriors.com/threads/introducing-nzw-ultimate-team.1704/page-3#post-244040

If you still have questions let me know or want to provide an example scenario i can take you through it.

Maybe people will believe me how important having cap space left for trades is after reading that lol

Blame it on being Friday combined with my compromised IQ, however I’m still a little confused.

So say I’ve used up all my cap & Ricky Stuart comes along as an option. Can I trade Stacey Jones (I won’t be doing this btw) to another player who still has $2.8m spare cap, and then use that $2.8m to bid for Stacey? Or can I only trade for him once the other player has signed him, so I can’t participate previously because I have no cap space left?

 

[tajhay]

So say I’ve used up all my cap & Ricky Stuart comes along as an option. Can I trade Stacey Jones (I won’t be doing this btw) to another player who still has $2.8m spare cap, and then use that $2.8m to bid for Stacey? Or can I only trade for him once the other player has signed him, so I can’t participate previously because I have no cap space left?

Yes you can, provided neither parties in the trade go over the cap. You can trade multiple players in one trade, plus cash (from your salary cap) to go either way.

So lets take you through an example scenario.

Event	Your Cap Space	Opponent Cap Space
Before Trade	$100,000	$3,000,000
Trade Offer - Stacey Jones for Tanah Boyd
Tanah Boyd has a salary of $150,000
Stacey Jones has a salary of $2,800,000
Trade - Stacey Jones goes to Opponent	$2,900,000	$200,000
Trade - Tanah Boyd goes to you	$2,750,000	$350,000
Net Change	+$2,650,000 cap space	-$2,650,000

Trade offers last for 2 days. You can put an offer to trade Stacey Jones to multiple teams. They all have 2 days to accept, before it is automatically withdrawn if no action from them. However accepts first gets the trade done. Once the trade is completed, you are free to found your newfound cap space however you may wish, i.e. pick Luke Hanson to partner Tanah from free agency, bid for Stuart, or just sit pretty knowing you have cap space. Its all up to you.

The price you bought players at, does not change during the entire season. Stacey Jones if he was bought at 2.8m, will always be at 2.8m irrespective of who he gets traded to, and what cash offers (part of cap) were used to lure him to other teams.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yes you can, provided neither parties in the trade go over the cap. You can trade multiple players in one trade, plus cash (from your salary cap) to go either way.

So lets take you through an example scenario.

Event	Your Cap Space	Opponent Cap Space
Before Trade	$100,000	$3,000,000
Trade Offer - Stacey Jones for Tanah Boyd
Tanah Boyd has a salary of $150,000
Stacey Jones has a salary of $2,800,000
Trade - Stacey Jones goes to Opponent	$2,900,000	$200,000
Trade - Tanah Boyd goes to you	$2,750,000	$350,000
Net Change	+$2,650,000 cap space	-$2,650,000

Trade offers last for 2 days. You can put an offer to trade Stacey Jones to multiple teams. They all have 2 days to accept, before it is automatically withdrawn if no action from them. However accepts first gets the trade done. Once the trade is completed, you are free to found your newfound cap space however you may wish, i.e. pick Luke Hanson to partner Tanah from free agency, bid for Stuart, or just sit pretty knowing you have cap space. Its all up to you.

The price you bought players at, does not change during the entire season. Stacey Jones if he was bought at 2.8m, will always be at 2.8m irrespective of who he gets traded to, and what cash offers (part of cap) were used to lure him to other teams.

Ok so just to be clear, if you use up all your cap, you can still get cap space back by trading out a player for a lesser value one?

 

[tajhay]

Ok so just to be clear, if you use up all your cap, you can still get cap space back by trading out a player for a lesser value one?

Yes by Trading. Not via free agency. If no team is able to absorb the cap of a 2.8m player, then you are stuck somewhat. You can also choose to release a player, but will absorb 50% of his salary as cap. That player then becomes eligible to be signed in free agency to first come first served at 100k (TBC -i might change this that the player goes into auction instead)

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yes by Trading. Not via free agency. If no team is able to absorb the cap of a 2.8m player, then you are stuck somewhat. You can also choose to release a player, but will absorb 50% of his salary as cap. That player then becomes eligible to be signed in free agency to first come first served at 100k (TBC -i might change this that the player goes into auction instead)

Cool that’s awesome thanks - I just didn’t have a chance to read & comprehend all that you posted previously! So the good news is that if you end up lopsided ok a certain position with your trades then you can trade to someone else who is deficient in players in that position, so really with a bit of trading people should all be able to get reasonably balanced squads.

 

[tajhay]

Cool that’s awesome thanks - I just didn’t have a chance to read & comprehend all that you posted previously! So the good news is that if you end up lopsided ok a certain position with your trades then you can trade to someone else who is deficient in players in that position, so really with a bit of trading people should all be able to get reasonably balanced squads.

Yes correct. And the thing is you can trade players injured or suspended, but the injuries and suspensions carry over to the next team. They will be alerted that the player in the trade offer is injured/suspended etc.

Say for example Stacey Jones is on 3m.
He gets injured in the first game for half the season.
His value to you becomes a lot less. So you may just be happy to get someone like Tanah Boyd who can cover that position going forward, whilst Tanah Boyd's team may have Rovelli who can step in and cover that position and wait till Stacey is fit again.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Yes correct. And the thing is you can trade players injured or suspended, but the injuries and suspensions carry over to the next team. They will be alerted that the player in the trade offer is injured/suspended etc.

Say for example Stacey Jones is on 3m.
He gets injured in the first game for half the season.
His value to you becomes a lot less. So you may just be happy to get someone like Tanah Boyd who can cover that position going forward, whilst Tanah Boyd's team may have Rovelli who can step in and cover that position and wait till Stacey is fit again.

If the little general is out for half the season then I’m gonna throw my toys!!

 

[Inruin]

If the little general is out for half the season then I’m gonna throw my toys!!

Luckily it will be a season ending injury in the first trial so you won't have to throw your toys

 

[tajhay]

If the little general is out for half the season then I’m gonna throw my toys!!

i am not trying to preempt anything... But look on the bright side, Stuart might consider joining your team

 

[tajhay]

You can also choose to release a player, but will absorb 50% of his salary as cap. That player then becomes eligible to be signed in free agency to first come first served at 100k (TBC -i might change this that the player goes into auction instead)

I am changing this as there is a loophole where teams can collude.

When a franchise releases a player, the following process now applies:

Step 1 - Release
- The releasing franchise removes the player from their roster
- They receive a 50% salary cap refund (the other 50% is dead cap)
- The player is placed on the Waiver Wire for 24 hours

Step 2 - Waiver Window (24 hours)
- All franchise owners are notified that the player is available on waivers
- Any franchise (except the one that released the player) can submit a blind bid
- Bids are hidden from other franchises — you won't see what anyone else has bid
- You can update or cancel your bid at any time during the 24-hour window
- Minimum bid: $100,000
- Your salary cap must have room for the bid (pending waiver bids count against your cap)

Step 3 - Resolution
- After 24 hours, the waiver is resolved automatically
- If there are bids: The highest bidder wins the player. If two franchises bid the same
amount, the one who bid first wins. The winning franchise adds the player to their roster
at the bid amount
- If there are no bids: The player clears waivers and becomes a free agent, available to
any franchise on a first-come-first-served basis for $100,000

Key Rules
- The releasing franchise cannot bid on the player they released
- The releasing franchise does not receive any money from the winning bid (they received their 50% of his original salary back by releasing him)
- Waivers are only available during the regular season — not during the auction phase
- You can only have one active bid per waiver

 

[Inruin]

i am not trying to preempt anything... But look on the bright side, Stuart might consider joining your team

So is there a realistic chance that players could be out for a prolonged period of time? Like half a season or more?