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[WA Warrior]

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Pretty surprised these lads are out so quickly.
I would say they must’ve paid off a serious amount of people or someone in power.

 

[juju]

This Polkinghorne trial on at the moment for the P smoking / hooker shagging eye surgeon whose wife died mysteriously.... is the most salacious trial for quite some time.

 

[mrblonde]

This Polkinghorne trial on at the moment for the P smoking / hooker shagging eye surgeon whose wife died mysteriously.... is the most salacious trial for quite some time.

I got called up for Jury Service. Starting 29 July and got told there would be a case lasting four-five weeks.
No bloody way our business would survive me not being there for five weeks so wrote in said Nup.
Then read/Googled information that said the vast majority of people called up for Jury Service just "forget" to turn up. And very few of those actually get fined as doing that to all those who "forgot" they had jury service would A Take a Shitload of Time and B Cost a Shitload of Money.
Then I read that permanently disabled folk can be permanently excused. BADA-BING, BADA-BOOM! So I applied and got excused but got told I might get called up again, so might have to get a medical certificate again.
Done Jury Service once. Sexual abuse case where a former husband of a woman was accused of abusing the woman's sister's daughter. Turned out the daughter had been told several times that all male touching was bad, so, logically, went to -whoever, forget exactly- said "So-and-so touched me" etc which ended up in court for a week, where one of the accusers admitted to lying about one small thing (which ruins the whole thing, frankly) and in the first lunch break one of the jurors didn't come back so we did the week long trial with 11 and we all had decided - although, officially, you're not allowed to discuss the case until you've heard all the evidence. YUP. NUP. - by the end of Day 1 that it was probably a Not Guilty situation...
As to Polkinghorne, I think he dunnit. The urine on the woman's body is interesting in that - sorry for being kinda gross here - that was an argument in the Bain case. Robin Bain had voided his bladder on his death and the amount of "voidance" was, one expert said, the amount you would expect to accumulate over a night's sleep and having not gone to the toilet so that implied A) He didn't kill his screwed up family or B) He did kill his screwed up family and had the most stunning sphintor control until he felt guilty enough to kill himself/was killed by David....

 

[Akkerz]

I got called up for Jury Service. Starting 29 July and got told there would be a case lasting four-five weeks.
No bloody way our business would survive me not being there for five weeks so wrote in said Nup.
Then read/Googled information that said the vast majority of people called up for Jury Service just "forget" to turn up. And very few of those actually get fined as doing that to all those who "forgot" they had jury service would A Take a Shitload of Time and B Cost a Shitload of Money.
Then I read that permanently disabled folk can be permanently excused. BADA-BING, BADA-BOOM! So I applied and got excused but got told I might get called up again, so might have to get a medical certificate again.
Done Jury Service once. Sexual abuse case where a former husband of a woman was accused of abusing the woman's sister's daughter. Turned out the daughter had been told several times that all male touching was bad, so, logically, went to -whoever, forget exactly- said "So-and-so touched me" etc which ended up in court for a week, where one of the accusers admitted to lying about one small thing (which ruins the whole thing, frankly) and in the first lunch break one of the jurors didn't come back so we did the week long trial with 11 and we all had decided - although, officially, you're not allowed to discuss the case until you've heard all the evidence. YUP. NUP. - by the end of Day 1 that it was probably a Not Guilty situation...
As to Polkinghorne, I think he dunnit. The urine on the woman's body is interesting in that - sorry for being kinda gross here - that was an argument in the Bain case. Robin Bain had voided his bladder on his death and the amount of "voidance" was, one expert said, the amount you would expect to accumulate over a night's sleep and having not gone to the toilet so that implied A) He didn't kill his screwed up family or B) He did kill his screwed up family and had the most stunning sphintor control until he felt guilty enough to kill himself/was killed by David....

I've just received a letter for jury service for the 5th time in 10 years - random picks off the electoral role yeah right. Anyway I've always attended, even though I'm on permanent disability. I find it interesting, This time it clashes with my mother getting cateract surgery & my own hospital check up. Buggered if I'm puting the hospital stuff off so wrote a nice letter & informed them of all the ways their timing is inconvenient . Just waiting for the reply & if the Justice Dept doesn't see it my way I'll be one of those jurors who just doesn't turn up. .

 

[defensivebomb]

This Polkinghorne trial on at the moment for the P smoking / hooker shagging eye surgeon whose wife died mysteriously.... is the most salacious trial for quite some time.

Do you reckon:
A. He did it, and will get found guilty, or
B. He did it, but will get found not guilty

 

[juju]

Do you reckon:
A. He did it, and will get found guilty, or
B. He did it, but will get found not guilty

He's got a very good lawyer who has planted enough seeds of doubt eh

 

[defensivebomb]

He's got a very good lawyer who has planted enough seeds of doubt eh

Yep true. I just hope they get his mistress to testify.

That will bring down nzherald.co.nz

 

[juju]

This is a pretty comprehensive article about what the jury didnt hear about the Polkinghorne mistress

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[marv.]

This is a pretty comprehensive article about what the jury didnt hear about the Polkinghorne mistress

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

it certainly seems like he did it.
i’ve been listening to the trial podcast while i run, but obviously zone out or miss bits here and there running.

what surprises me most is what a bumbling bogan he is for a surgeon.
most of my wife’s maternal side of the family are surgeons. and every one of them are painfully proper.

things like the loose rope at the bannister and stuff just seem such a slack or lazy oversight for someone who’s career has to be so detail oriented.

 

[juju]

it certainly seems like he did it.
i’ve been listening to the trial podcast while i run, but obviously zone out or miss bits here and there running.

what surprises me most is what a bumbling bogan he is for a surgeon.
most of my wife’s maternal side of the family are surgeons. and every one of them are painfully proper.

things like the loose rope at the bannister and stuff just seem such a slack or lazy oversight for someone who’s career has to be so detail oriented.

I think he didnt but the prosecution couldn't get it beyond reasonable doubt.

He was living a very wild life.

Midlife crisis mixed with sex addiction & meth addiction.

 

[Evil_Mush]

Speaking of jury service, the only time I got a callup was in 2002 I think (when I was third year at uni) and it was going to be around my exam times so wrote in to excuse myself.

Never had another request for it since, I wonder if I was put on a permanent hold by mistake, always wondered what it would be like.

 

[Inruin]

Speaking of jury service, the only time I got a callup was in 2002 I think (when I was third year at uni) and it was going to be around my exam times so wrote in to excuse myself.

Never had another request for it since, I wonder if I was put on a permanent hold by mistake, always wondered what it would be like.

I've been called 4 times. Once I got called twice in the space of a year. My wife has never been called.

 

[defensivebomb]

This is a pretty comprehensive article about what the jury didnt hear about the Polkinghorne mistress

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Madison Ashton is a sh@tbag. Gets called as a witness and goes on a holiday instead, then happily gives her views from afar. She had a duty, which she shirked away from, and is now making the case about her, citing her treatment by the police, rather than seeking justice

I wouldn’t place any weight on her views, as she had plenty of opportunity to provide them in court. This isn’t even her biggest court case!

 

[juju]

Madison Ashton is a sh@tbag. Gets called as a witness and goes on a holiday instead, then happily gives her views from afar. She had a duty, which she shirked away from, and is now making the case about her, citing her treatment by the police, rather than seeking justice

I wouldn’t place any weight on her views, as she had plenty of opportunity to provide them in court. This isn’t even her biggest court case!

I really feel for the wife and her family.

Either way it was Polkinghorne conduct that caused her death.

 

[John Nick]

I've been called 4 times. Once I got called twice in the space of a year. My wife has never been called.

I got the call earlier this year but as a publisher and deadlines I was excused

 

[Inruin]

Madison Ashton is a sh@tbag. Gets called as a witness and goes on a holiday instead, then happily gives her views from afar. She had a duty, which she shirked away from, and is now making the case about her, citing her treatment by the police, rather than seeking justice

I wouldn’t place any weight on her views, as she had plenty of opportunity to provide them in court. This isn’t even her biggest court case!

15 minutes of fame followed by a link to her Onlyfans page I think. Just seems like a marketing stunt rather than an opportunity to give her side of the story, which if she was serious about it should have been during the court case.

 

[PhilsySH35]

just watched dcco on netflix the other day, was about the young 20 yr old from Britain on her OE to nz who went missing a couple of years ago in Auckland. she met this kiwi bloke online dating app, they hooked up for a couple of hours then went to his hotel downtown Auckland, had sex and he strangled her, I believe he wanted to find out what it would feel like to kill someone. he then put her body into a suitcase he brought from the warehouse and buried her in the bush in Auckland. what I liked about it was how the police were able to gather info and evidence. he could of easily got off, he tried though. what freaked me out was how truly evil this guy was, now that's what you call a psycho. his police interview showed him lying so easily, a normal person who is lying to a police officer will be sweating bullets nervous as etc, but he came across as a ordinary kiwi bloke, with not a worry in the world, but the investigating cop wasn't getting duped by him. I read online some articles about the case and how truly manipulating he was with a previous girlfriend (she's lucky he didn't kill her). the police did an excellent job in prosecuting him, well done nz police.

 

[WA Warrior]

just watched dcco on netflix the other day, was about the young 20 yr old from Britain on her OE to nz who went missing a couple of years ago in Auckland. she met this kiwi bloke online dating app, they hooked up for a couple of hours then went to his hotel downtown Auckland, had sex and he strangled her, I believe he wanted to find out what it would feel like to kill someone. he then put her body into a suitcase he brought from the warehouse and buried her in the bush in Auckland. what I liked about it was how the police were able to gather info and evidence. he could of easily got off, he tried though. what freaked me out was how truly evil this guy was, now that's what you call a psycho. his police interview showed him lying so easily, a normal person who is lying to a police officer will be sweating bullets nervous as etc, but he came across as a ordinary kiwi bloke, with not a worry in the world, but the investigating cop wasn't getting duped by him. I read online some articles about the case and how truly manipulating he was with a previous girlfriend (she's lucky he didn't kill her). the police did an excellent job in prosecuting him, well done nz police.

Mate what a filthy mongrel that bloke was hey.
When he brought the 2nd suitcase for an example showed what kind of evil calculating prick he was.
Crazy that 95% of the story plays out on CCTV as well.
Felt so much for her parents, basically killed the father as well.

 

[Inruin]

That lead detective did an awesome job. Let the nutter talk and then just kept unravelling the threads. Considering that basically in the space of a week they had their man, really three days since she was reported missing. It's really a very sad case and looking at the guys history it was a matter of time before he killed someone

 

[mrblonde]

I knew what the verdict would be when I read the jury had said some of them didn't believe the defence had convinced them the wife had committed suicide and the judge basically said "The defence don't have to prove beyond reasonable doubt she committed suicide, the prosecution have to prove beyond resonable doubt she was murdered by the defendant." And the jury didn't feel the prosecution had convinced them of that, either.