Politics 🤡 Donald Trump

This is an opinion piece by a rightwing agitator but it shows you how mainstream the discussion is becoming.

Not sure that everyone quite has a grasp on what a vaccine does. Risks come with all vaccines and you health physician will tell you this. Some vaccines like a flu vaccine can have a live vaccine injected into you and this is used on the body to prevent it returning in fighting it off effectively, why some get a slight sniffle in the following does. It also has other ingredients, some have multiple protections like the mumps, measles and rubella vaccine though this isn’t live. Like the covid vaccine it’s made up in an effort to imitate the virus in having the same outcome that the vaccine with the live virus does. There’s no doubt that people suffered adverse reactions to the covid vaccine, but those were likely the ones who would have struggled like so many did when getting the virus. We’ll never know, but the discussion is helpful as there’s so much to the human body to learn. I’ve always thought a look into it’s origins would be helpful
 
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Not sure that everyone quite has a grasp on what a vaccine does. Risks come with all vaccines and you health physician will tell you this. Some vaccines like a flu vaccine can have a live vaccine injected into you and this is used on the body to prevent it returning in fighting it off effectively, why some get a slight sniffle in the following does. It also has other ingredients, some have multiple protections like the mumps, measles and rubella vaccine though this isn’t live. Like the covid vaccine it’s made up in an effort to imitate the virus in having the same outcome that the vaccine with the live virus does. There’s no doubt that people suffered adverse reactions to the covid vaccine, but those were likely the ones who would have struggled like so many did when getting the virus. We’ll never know, but the discussion is helpful as there’s so much to the human body to learn. I’ve always thought a look into it’s origins would be helpful
Very true and I still maintain that the entire thing was worth it for lessons learnt for the future. But the government needs to communicate risk better
 
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Since Bruce is no longer here to post about the latest book by Mary Trump about the Don, I thought I would....

Mary Trump returns with more stories of her family’s deep dysfunction​

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Donald Trump has called Kamala Harris “real garbage”, “a wack job”, and even reposted a crude slur to millions of his followers that a certain sex act may have boosted her political career.

Trump’s crass and demeaning remarks about his enemies - calling them pigs, ugly, fat and losers - is rooted in his upbringing, according to his niece, Mary L. Trump, who has written a new memoir, Who Could Ever Love You. This is the third book she has published since 2020, all of them critical of her uncle.

It’s safe to say that Donald Trump won’t be thrilled with his niece’s new book, which expands on themes she has explored before: the Trump family’s callousness, arrogance and win-at-all-costs credo. Now she offers vivid new detail about how those family values harmed her and her father.

Mary and Donald Trump have been at odds for years. He was furious when she gave The New York Times his tax returns, leading to embarrassing stories about controversial financial practices and tax avoidance schemes.



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He tried to undercut her credibility when she published her first book, Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man, in 2020. That book, which was a bestseller, explored the dynamics of the Trump family and offered personal insights into Donald Trump’s upbringing and behaviour. (Mary Trump is a clinical psychologist.)

In an interview with Fox News, President Donald Trump said Mary Trump was “a scarred person”, called her book “stupid and so vicious it’s a lie”, and said she is “not a person that I spent very much time with”.

Now, in her new book, Mary Trump elaborates with stories based on what she says are eyewitness observations of the Trump family dysfunction.

Trump, the daughter of Donald Trump’s older brother, Fred Trump Jr, describes the former president’s mother as “seriously ill and psychologically unstable” and his father as “a sociopath”. She says that Fred Trump Sr was hard-hearted, and so craved publicity that he devoted a room to news clippings about the real estate empire he founded and felt zero empathy for tenants in his cockroach-infested New York apartments. She says her Uncle Donald became just like him.

As a child, Donald Trump was a bully who had no friends and developed a “widening cruel streak”, his niece writes. When her uncle became one of the most famous people in the world, his lack of empathy and disrespect to others made her ashamed to even use her credit card bearing her last name. In 2021, she sank into a depression so severe that she tried ketamine therapy.

Several of this memoir’s most vivid scenes revolve around Mary’s father, who struggled with alcoholism and died at age 42. Donald Trump has said his older brother’s alcoholism is why he never drank, for fear he would not stop.

Fred Trump Jr was pressured by his father to take over the family business, but became a pilot instead.

“Dad’s embarrassed by you,” Donald told his brother, according to Mary Trump. “He tells everybody you’re just a glorified bus driver.”

Mary Trump recalls other gratuitously hurtful comments by Donald Trump, who became president of the family business in his mid-20s. While she was away at school in 1981, her seriously ill father was rushed to the emergency room in New York. Her grandfather informed Donald, then in his 30s, but he “went to the movies”, she writes, adding that her father died alone that night.

Weeks later, Mary Trump describes being in the home of Fred Trump Sr, a teetotaller, for Thanksgiving. Her aunt, Maryanne, offered a toast to her deceased brother.

“To Freddy,” she said.

We raised our glasses of apple juice and Coke, which is all that was ever offered.

My grandmother sat next to me, and I could see her lips trembling.

“To Freddy,” the rest of us responded.

Except for my grandfather, he didn’t bother.


Mary’s only sibling, Fred Trump III, also describes Uncle Donald’s heartlessness in his recent book, All in the Family: The Trumps and How We Got This Way. He has a son with cerebral palsy who suffered severe seizures and, after his grandfather died in 1999, his family, with its significant medical bills, was cut off from the Trump family’s health insurance plan, leading to a lawsuit that received widespread media attention at the time.

But when Trump became president, Fred Trump III said he was grateful to his uncle for allowing a White House meeting where he and others advocated for more resources for those with disabilities - until it was over and his uncle spoke to him privately and said, “Those people … The shape they’re in, all the expenses, maybe those kinds of people should just die.”

The takeaway is that Donald, like his father, who flashed the $100 bills he carried, valued money over people - and squeezed every last cent out of everyone.

In a telling detail, Mary Trump said that her father had to write a check to Donald to use a room at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Times Square, which he developed, to throw her a 16th birthday party in 1981. And yet, “Donald walked in, expansive about his new hotel, crowing about the fixtures to a roomful of teenagers who couldn’t have cared less. He swanned about it as if it was his grand opening, as if he were the host,” not her father.

Mary says her father paid a heavy price for trying to go his own way. Donald Trump, on the other hand, revered his father. He kept his photo in the Oval Office and called him his role model. “Freddy and Donald were mirror images of each other,” she writes. “One genuinely successful but cast as a failure, the other incapable of succeeding at anything but propped up by a father who evaluated his sons through a very different lens than any objective observer.”

Decades ago, Mary said Donald and Fred Sr religiously clipped articles from New York newspapers that mentioned the Trumps, piling them on chairs and tables in a room off the kitchen in her grandfather’s home. Every time she went to that house, she says, “Donald and my grandfather stood there discussing the clippings and rearranging them.”

At the end of her book, Mary concludes: “Here we are, Donald and I, still on diametrically opposite ends of everything, just as we were at my grandparents’ formal dining room table. The difference now - he’s not the only one with power.”

  • Who Could Ever Love You: A Family Memoir, by Mary L. Trump (St. Martin’s)
 
Denigrate Trump as much as you like, I get ot, zi do not like him either. So why do people support him? You have the lunatic right wingers. They are a part of it. Another factor, and probably the majority do it because he is their only alternative. They believe the Democrats do not listen to them. They see yhe Democrats as yhe party of the permaneny war deep state only catering yo the donor class.
 
I see that Dick Cheney has now officially put his support behind Kamala Harris 😅

I don't know about everyone else, but for me this mofo along with Bush Jr was much worse for America (and the world) than Trump for their part in "spreading democracy to the world" (aka lets go blow up some foreigners and get the oil yeeeehaaaa) and all the Patriot Act hoopla post Sept 11, so it is remarkable that Democrats will gladly accept support from one of the OG Election Stealers 😜

What a wacky election cycle this has been.
 
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They are a part of it. Another factor, and probably the majority do it because he is their only alternative. They believe the Democrats do not listen to them. They see yhe Democrats as yhe party of the permaneny war deep state only catering yo the donor class.

I think the majority of voters sit very much outside the realms of extreme social views and are just trying to live their lives.

Personally I think the take away from 2016 to now is how the political system has failed us.

Westerners walk around as though democracy is infallible, but when your options for 'change' rely on effectively one of two parties, can you really occupy a moral high ground?

My current employer is a pretty major Chinese company (Tencent) and as per any other company, the workers just want to come to work, do their jobs as best as they can and go home. Their current administration is far at the back of their minds, unless they stop the workers from doing what they want.
 
Hi - NZ people following the US election. Which channel available on Sky if any is showing the debate in full tomorrow?
It is on ABC in the US but sky doesn't show that...can someone help??
 
Hi - NZ people following the US election. Which channel available on Sky if any is showing the debate in full tomorrow?
It is on ABC in the US but sky doesn't show that...can someone help??
Moderated by ABC's David Muir and Linsey Davis, it will air on ABC and stream on ABC News Live, Disney+ and Hulu, as well as their YouTube channel.

 
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I see that Dick Cheney has now officially put his support behind Kamala Harris 😅

I don't know about everyone else, but for me this mofo along with Bush Jr was much worse for America (and the world) than Trump for their part in "spreading democracy to the world" (aka lets go blow up some foreigners and get the oil yeeeehaaaa) and all the Patriot Act hoopla post Sept 11, so it is remarkable that Democrats will gladly accept support from one of the OG Election Stealers 😜

What a wacky election cycle this has been.
Is that Christian Bale dick Chene 😂
 
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Just watched 'Night of the Long Knives' last night. Interesting...
Project 2025 anyone?
I thought Trump was the problem but he's just a puppet. A willing one mind you, no matter how much he disavows his knowledge of it. His love of authoritarians is renowned, he says it out loud ffs & in recent weeks he's gone over the edge imo.
Be careful what you wish for.
 
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It feels like "Project 2025" is the new "Qanon", in terms of a buzzword brought into the conversation out of nowhere leading into an election to try and taint a political opponent.

I wonder how long this curious part of the election cycle has been going for? 🤔
 
It feels like "Project 2025" is the new "Qanon", in terms of a buzzword brought into the conversation out of nowhere leading into an election to try and taint a political opponent.

I wonder how long this curious part of the election cycle has been going for? 🤔
Qanon was some weird secret society with some unknown leader q. Project 2025 has been put forward publicly as an undoing of policies that came from the Biden administration. They seem very different?
 
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Trump is really quite interesting. While I think most, if not all politicians, have a degree of ego involved in the decision to run for a position, I think a lot of them would be mostly ideologically driven... i.e. more or less tax, more or less government, environmental over progress etc. but Trump appears to be mostly in it for himself, driven by his ego, his bullying nature and his need for control (including being immune from prosecution while the Republicans have enough votes in either house and appoint judges favourable to him).

And to extend his business.... while he may have handed control of the Trump Organisation to others, especially family members, anyone who thinks he wasn't still pulling the strings is deluding themselves.

His claims that there was less conflict while he was president is laughable.... yet, many believe it. Putin wouldn't have waited to invade the Ukraine because Trump was POTUS but because the timing wasn't right. He already had forces in Syria that needed to be brought back. Wagner was committed to countries in Africa providing "security" and need to redeploy. New weapons systems for the latest generation of tanks and upgrades to existing tanks weren't ready until after Biden became President.
 
Qanon was some weird secret society with some unknown leader q. Project 2025 has been put forward publicly as an undoing of policies that came from the Biden administration. They seem very different?

I'm not comparing them as concepts, just the way they enter the public conversation out of nowhere in the election cycle.

I remember the debate with Biden in 2020 where he kept talking about Qanon which was maybe the first time I had heard of it. Seemed like such a random thing that 90% of people wouldn't know or care about.
 
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