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[wizard of Tauranga]

All vehicles to move to road user charges under National, including EVs

Road funding would move away from fuel excises towards pay per kilometre, National transport spokesperson Simeon Brown says.

www.stuff.co.nz

Not a fan of this. Was precisely why I didn’t buy a diesel for the road user hassle.

I agree.

I think an issue is how to charge hybrid petrol/ electric vehicles?

They pay through fuel but get free use while running on electric.

And if you make them pay road user charges they are double paying when they use fuel.

 

[Noitall]

I agree.

I think an issue is how to charge hybrid petrol/ electric vehicles?

They pay through fuel but get free use while running on electric.

And if you make them pay road user charges they are double paying when they use fuel.

I understand that but to enforce it on everyone when only a small fleet is electric is just another tax.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I understand that but to enforce it on everyone when only a small fleet is electric is just another tax.

There are never any taxes in life. Just user pays fees

 

[Noitall]

Election 2023: National leader Christopher Luxon walks off amid questions about National's tax plan

"When we say back office, that is the engine room for the frontline," said Renney.

www.newshub.co.nz

This is getting ridiculous. Voters have a right to ask questions on policies and they be answered. Would think it’s simple enough to communicate you’re message when wanting to be the next government.

 

[Noitall]

Māori are 'not indigenous', Winston Peters claims

The NZ First leader told a crowd of supporters, "We’re not from here. And you go back 5000 years, we came with our DNA from China."

www.stuff.co.nz

Divisive prick.

 

[snake77]

There are never any taxes in life. Just user pays fees

The last few year we didn't have any new taxes. Just some new levies.

Let's just change the words so people feel better about it.

 

[snake77]

Māori are 'not indigenous', Winston Peters claims

The NZ First leader told a crowd of supporters, "We’re not from here. And you go back 5000 years, we came with our DNA from China."

www.stuff.co.nz

Divisive prick.

He's a former Minister for māori Affairs back in his National days as well. The sooner we see the back of him the better.

There is always some group he wants to attack to create headlines and get votes.

In the past he was on about Chinese living here. Gets in office and gets his nice Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade role so he can travel and drink a lot and he's all good about China now as he needs to travel there.

I really hope we don't get another election where the nation votes and then we wait for Winston to decide.

 

[Inruin]

All vehicles to move to road user charges under National, including EVs

Road funding would move away from fuel excises towards pay per kilometre, National transport spokesperson Simeon Brown says.

www.stuff.co.nz

Not a fan of this. Was precisely why I didn’t buy a diesel for the road user hassle.

So how do you ensure all vehicles are charged appropriately?

 

[John Nick]

So how do you ensure all vehicles are charged appropriately?

As usual good policy except for the HOW.
Similar to the tax policy
Similar to the education and housing policies.
Great ideas but lacking facts

 

[snake77]

So how do you ensure all vehicles are charged appropriately?

We all had that friend(s) who would run their car on empty as they forget, can't afford or be bothered to fill their car up. They will be the ones now that pick you up and notice the charge is going to cut it close for the trip your about to go on.

Putting a road user charge on EVs is fair enough as it is a bit of a hole at the moment.

Moving all cars might work well if it makes us less prone to flutuations in petrol prices. The enforcement will be another issue. A lot will just comply while others will take advantage of the petrol prices and not pay the charges. Yes there will be a way to record it like with diesel but there will be a lot that will take the risk. We have a lot of articles on how people are struggling with day-to-day expenses or paying at the pump. I can see a larger sum creating stress or being ignored.

 

[defensivebomb]

So how do you ensure all vehicles are charged appropriately?

Pure electric cars - annual verification of km's travelled. Road user charges levied
PHEVs - pay via fuel (as is currently), plus a discounted RUC rate based on the above formula

 

[snake77]

After enduring a pandemic I'd like to see more focus on health policies.

A lot of arguing from both sides on hospital issues. Nurse's strikes, staff shortages, wait times, security required at hospitals. I haven't seen too much on solutions.

I'm not sure what it is like where the rest of you live for your doctors. We have my son in today. I was surprised we got him in as previously I've called to get an appointment and they will book me in a week or two from now. Well I likely won't be sick then.

 

[dean]

I agree.

I think an issue is how to charge hybrid petrol/ electric vehicles?

They pay through fuel but get free use while running on electric.

And if you make them pay road user charges they are double paying when they use fuel.

Diesel vehicles pay fuel tax per litre then RC's on top. To complicate it even more there are various classes especially for trucks. I hope EV' pay at least the diesel rate, sick of subsidising Tesla drivers and having to pay a ute tax.

 

[John Nick]

OMG. Wellington expected to run out of water this summer. Infrastructure is fucked.
El Nino expected.
Everyone has their heads in the sand

 

[juju]

OMG. Wellington expected to run out of water this summer. Infrastructure is fucked.
El Nino expected.
Everyone has their heads in the sand

Well with todays poll - its all Luxon and Willis responsibility now

 

[Evil_Mush]

OMG. Wellington expected to run out of water this summer. Infrastructure is fucked.
El Nino expected.
Everyone has their heads in the sand

Given all the pipes that have been springing leaks (and in some cases geysers) over the last however many years that take an age to fix, that's not surprising.

 

[miket12]

Latest Newshub Reid Research poll results…. Assuming the māori Party win in electoral seat and NZ First don‘t pass the 5% threshold.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I see Luxton is showing that potato skins are thin. Called it ages ago. Will he complete an utter collapse?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Well with todays poll - its all Luxon and Willis responsibility now

Continues a long trend that moving aside Jacinda couldn’t stop.

The old saying: It’s the economy

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

This poll is more what I hear in the community. It has defied logic that Labour could hold up in the 30’s for long. I seriously question who they actually poll…