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Dunno why you cannot work out that there is a problem and your GOVTs solution is to cut funding despite the problem now interfering in the ongoing function of a system.
So in your world if Labor let something get broken, then National not doing anything about it is ok. What use is this Govt to us then???
Obviously a lack of infrastructure spend by both parties over many years
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We’ve been living beyond our means. National has said this. Treasury has said this. Tax payers are saying it. Even Labour was cutting spending.
Yet people are confused and outraged when the hard decisions are made…
Yet people are confused and outraged when the hard decisions are made…
Certainly no over spending on infrastructure over the years.
That's the reason for the issues we are facing now. Not only rail and water but everything
The new Government haven't cut anything yet so blaming them for something that happened this week on any potential cuts that haven't even happened yet is trolling, at best. And those lines have been getting upgraded with that last remaining track to be completed. Blaming previous governments on a lack of investment is fair enough.
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I think there’s been a long term underinvestment in infrastructure from all parties.
But it’s driven by our lack of wealth as a country due to low productivity plus our absurd build costs (lack of economies of scale, remoteness, etc)
We’ve made a choice to not use our natural wealth.
We’re like the superannuitants of the world - natural asset rich but cash poor. And like them, slowly we’re accumulating old furniture which we can’t afford to upgrade.
Not only Govt but local councils ..
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I think the problem is the quality of the spending. Labour had a field day heroically dusting 60bn, Shane Jones 3bn etc. If only those guys had the foresight to speak to all stakeholders and not just their constituents, that money could have been better spent on infrastructure
A billion dollars is a lot of money!
And yes, past governments across the spectrum has underspent on the right things and overspent on the wrong things
You didn't watch the select committee did you - that was about 2 minutes of the 3 hours.
Was a very informative watch .Especially the issues with building/upgrading new terminals in Wellington & the earthquake proofing needed.270 pylons driven very deep just to kick off.
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Did that 3 hours say that the train delays were caused by this Governments cuts?
No and nor the previous government
Do you live in a fucking vacuum?
The ignorance is almost as staggering as the as the arrogance to join a debate without the requisite knowledge.
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You are too funny.
No, I don't live on Waiheke.
And the second part is awesome. Well done. That's the first step. Admitting you have a problem. I'm proud of you.
How do you maintain an AAA credit rating, if you're also out of control with spending? 
your ability to pay back debt doesn't mean you are in control of your spendingHow do you maintain an AAA credit rating, if you're also out of control with spending?
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I think it does just that.
so, is it worth you spending money you borrowed on things that you either don't need or doesn't add value to your place even though you can afford to repay it? Your credit rating might be fine but you are then incurring interests costs that affect future purchases and spending on things that actually need money spent on them.
