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[wizard of Tauranga]

Disinformation at it's worst.

Show some integrity.

43 against 3 waters and 9 for…

What point were you trying to make? Councils
Overwhelmingly voted against it.

 

[John Nick]

43 against 3 waters and 9 for…

What point were you trying to make? Councils
Overwhelmingly voted against it.

Pointing out the opinions of Councils is not a waterproof argument.

 

[Noitall]

43 against 3 waters and 9 for…

What point were you trying to make? Councils
Overwhelmingly voted against it.

Potentially 57 against or 23 in favour. Will never know which way on the fence went.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

When I went to Nursing School on the North shore at AIT there were 12 māori and one hundred an two Pakeha in my class.

A bunch of Pakeha accused me of getting my placement because I am māori.

I finished with an A average which was pretty much my fuck you to all those women who tried to make my right to study about my race.

You can ignore the reality of this extremely racist country all you like....keep ignoring it....clap clap...while posting about beneficiaries should be applying to countdown to push trolleys....hey I just told you my Mathematician sister could not get a job in Countdown and you are being a woos and not responding.....good on you.

Bottom line, if you are māori and you ask for a Job, you ain't getting one unless there is no one white or a quota system to fill.

Truth.

I wish more New Zealanders were honest about that shit eh, it would make me have more respect for most of you people in here.

I am hoping this Govt gets rid of the treaty so there is no longer a reason for māori to be this Uncle Tom peaceable placid group who always have quiet protests.

Lets get rid of all that so that the conversation switches to māori talking openly about theft, home invasion, rape, genocide, Apartheid and state sponsored domination and human rights abuses, rather than waving placards, if the Pakeha get rid of the Treaty we can go directly to the mainstream court, the international courts and the United Nations.

Lets get rid of the treaty and put the international spotlight on abuses in this country, lets have Aljazeera reporting on māori Issues so the whole world enters the dialogue and the local Pakeha narrative is drowned out by neutral, fair, international judgement of the what happened to māori here, what continues to happen to māori here, and what this new Govt have planned for māori here.

That stupid treaty has been a muffler on māori causes and a way to keep all the illegality and undemocratic shit Pakeha do....in house, that stupid treaty the Pakeha want rid of is their biggest gag on māori issues, so I say, please have a referendum and get rid of it so we can be like every other group and no longer kiss the arse of an old document our grandfathers signed in good faith, free us from the bonds of that shit.

Lets air New Zealands laundry globally and empower māori to see what other people have to say who are not biased like the powers that be who control the lying narrative in this country.

Ban the treaty and expose the shit to to world so māori see it measured by the court of international opinion and take the conversation forward on the front foot, rather than these piece meal Pakeha settlement payouts.

I’m not white, I have employed heaps of māori. My business partner is māori. I employ who’s best for the job.

You let your performance show through in your training irrespective of race. Well done. That’s the way it should be. Just like I have done.

I hope you pass that message onto your children instead of ‘everyone’s against us and it’s everyone else’s fault.’

One way puts the power in your own hands and empowers, the other way hands your destiny to something you have no control over.

 

[Noitall]

When I went to Nursing School on the North shore at AIT there were 12 māori and one hundred an two Pakeha in my class.

A bunch of Pakeha accused me of getting my placement because I am māori.

I finished with an A average which was pretty much my fuck you to all those women who tried to make my right to study about my race.

You can ignore the reality of this extremely racist country all you like....keep ignoring it....clap clap...while posting about beneficiaries should be applying to countdown to push trolleys....hey I just told you my Mathematician sister could not get a job in Countdown and you are being a woos and not responding.....good on you.

Bottom line, if you are māori and you ask for a Job, you ain't getting one unless there is no one white or a quota system to fill.

Truth.

I wish more New Zealanders were honest about that shit eh, it would make me have more respect for most of you people in here.

I am hoping this Govt gets rid of the treaty so there is no longer a reason for māori to be this Uncle Tom peaceable placid group who always have quiet protests.

Lets get rid of all that so that the conversation switches to māori talking openly about theft, home invasion, rape, genocide, Apartheid and state sponsored domination and human rights abuses, rather than waving placards, if the Pakeha get rid of the Treaty we can go directly to the mainstream court, the international courts and the United Nations.

Lets get rid of the treaty and put the international spotlight on abuses in this country, lets have Aljazeera reporting on māori Issues so the whole world enters the dialogue and the local Pakeha narrative is drowned out by neutral, fair, international judgement of the what happened to māori here, what continues to happen to māori here, and what this new Govt have planned for māori here.

That stupid treaty has been a muffler on māori causes and a way to keep all the illegality and undemocratic shit Pakeha do....in house, that stupid treaty the Pakeha want rid of is their biggest gag on māori issues, so I say, please have a referendum and get rid of it so we can be like every other group and no longer kiss the arse of an old document our grandfathers signed in good faith, free us from the bonds of that shit.

Lets air New Zealands laundry globally and empower māori to see what other people have to say who are not biased like the powers that be who control the lying narrative in this country.

Ban the treaty and expose the shit to to world so māori see it measured by the court of international opinion and take the conversation forward on the front foot, rather than these piece meal Pakeha settlement payouts.

Shit your family interviews badly bro.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Pointing out the opinions of Councils is not a waterproof argument.

Ok… let’s point to the voters in the election.

Gonesky!

And it probably cost Mahuta her own seat as well.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Potentially 57 against or 23 in favour. Will never know which way on the fence went.

Potentially they are all against but to scared to stand up to the govt.

57 against; 9 for!

 

[MaybeTop8]

43 against 3 waters and 9 for…

What point were you trying to make? Councils
Overwhelmingly voted against it.

43 against, 13 undecided, 9 for. In what world does that make up 99%?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

43 against, 13 undecided, 9 for. In what world does that make up 99%?

It was a clear majority. Are you saying the councils overall supported it?

Nowhere near!

And since your so transparent, was this before or after the govt spent hundreds of millions sweetening the deal to try to buy their support?

 

[John Nick]

Ok… let’s point to the voters in the election.

Gonesky!

And it probably cost Mahuta her own seat as well.

Point is that the majority of councils around nz are struggling and the leadership is atrocious.
Yes here in Tauranga you put a guy like Tenby in.
Not a great decision

 

[miket12]

So over time they MUST creep closer to low paid employees every time wage growth is less than inflation!

Taken to its extreme eventually a beneficiary would earn MORE than a low paid full time employee

And the simple answer to that is to also increase the minimum wage by the same amount so the gap between the minimum wage and the benefits doesn’t creep close.

 

[Rizzah]

View: https://x.com/JennaLynchNZ/status/1757653705552429348?s=20

 

[Rizzah]

Big donor’s ask: Minister reviews cameras on fishing boats​

As he meets with minister over wine and oysters, Westfleet chief executive confirms up to $30k in donations to Shane Jones and coalition partners.

A fishing boss, who Newsroom has confirmed is one of NZ First deputy leader Shane Jones' biggest campaign donors, is pushing for the minister to get rid of cameras on boats.

Big donor's ask: Minister reviews cameras on fishing boats

As he meets with minister over wine and oysters, Westfleet boss Craig Boote confirms up to $30k in donations to Shane Jones and coalition partners. Jonathan Milne reports.

newsroom.co.nz

 

[Rizzah]

View: https://x.com/NewstalkZB/status/1757616403723563363?s=20

Wiz - "that's not many...."

 

[Inruin]

Big donor’s ask: Minister reviews cameras on fishing boats​

As he meets with minister over wine and oysters, Westfleet chief executive confirms up to $30k in donations to Shane Jones and coalition partners.

A fishing boss, who Newsroom has confirmed is one of NZ First deputy leader Shane Jones' biggest campaign donors, is pushing for the minister to get rid of cameras on boats.

Big donor's ask: Minister reviews cameras on fishing boats

As he meets with minister over wine and oysters, Westfleet boss Craig Boote confirms up to $30k in donations to Shane Jones and coalition partners. Jonathan Milne reports.

newsroom.co.nz

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz

Has Jimmy asked about the wrong donors?

 

[Rizzah]

Stuff

www.newshub.co.nz

Has Jimmy asked about the wrong donors?

Interesting...

 

[Worried2Death]

View: https://x.com/JennaLynchNZ/status/1757653705552429348?s=20

Winnie will pull the handbrake on this proposal, won't he?

 

[miket12]

View: https://x.com/JennaLynchNZ/status/1757653705552429348?s=20

I know that the government will say that increasing the rental stock will help the supply and demand issues over rental stock (particularly in Auckland, BOP, Wellington and Queenstown), but I personally feel going from 20 or more new rental units to one new one is dropping the exemption for overseas investors too much. Only my opinion, but I'd drop it to say ten of more. That opens up more potential land for rental properties but not to the extent that the proposed change would.

 

[dean]

I personally would like it be to indexed to what was the higher…. wage growth or inflation.

Why would you index benefits above workers wages?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

View: https://x.com/NewstalkZB/status/1757616403723563363?s=20

Wiz - "that's not many...."

‘The officials said the changes may encourage “work-ready” beneficiaries to enter the workforce, however.’

Funny how the whole article focuses on the negative with a single line hidden in the middle about the positives…

Anyway I’ve read the whole article and it doesn’t explain how more people will no longer be able to afford a school uniform anymore - real material hardship. By definition if your benefit increases by inflation, then your purchasing power doesn’t go backwards. Explain please?

There is no official measure of inflation in NZ but the two major methods are: The ‘fixed line’ measure anchors the poverty line in a reference year, then adjusts it each survey with the Consumer Price Index. By this preferred govt definition if your increasing benefits by CPI fixed line then there will be no further poverty and a child can still afford the school uniform.

The more abstract ‘moving line’ or ‘relative’ measure, favoured by the left, which sets the poverty line as a proportion of the median income. By this measure it can only get worse with the proposed changes but has no relevance to the real world or if a child can afford a school uniform or not.

The ‘Material hardship’ measure is an actual real world measure used by stats NZ about how many of a list of essentials a family can afford. Under the proposed changes with benefits increasing by inflation this cannot get worse.

Convenient the whole article is based on the one abstract method and ignores the real world method. Almost like it’s deliberately biased and bordering on misinformation…

So yes the 13,000 is a nothing figure.