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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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You have been rambling on for pages about the corruption of this Govt and centre right parties and you still are.
Fact is, there are law breakers in the Greens and Labour and you get very sensitive if this is pointed out, along with other lefties.
The human rights lawyer, champion for the underdog and justice spokesperson is accused of shoplifting and you want to sweep that under the carpet? It might just be a reflection of the woman she is.
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Seems a bit exaggerated, but feel free to provide some facts and evidence. Pathetic was being polite.
 

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Seems a bit exaggerated, but feel free to provide some facts and evidence. Pathetic was being polite.
Elizabeth Kerekere and now their justice spokeswoman. How much more evidence do you want?
You are full of criticism for anything associated with Act-National, supporting less than favourable comments about people that support them.
You are pathetic in your constant defence of anything the left has done and your constant rambling about corruption of this Govt.
 
Elizabeth Kerekere and now their justice spokeswoman. How much more evidence do you want?
You are full of criticism for anything associated with Act-National, supporting less than favourable comments about people that support them.
You are pathetic in your constant defence of anything the left has done and your constant rambling about corruption of this Govt.
You've stated the whole party. Elizabeth Kerekere is gone, through the Green party process.

At the moment, apart from the lynch mob, there is nothing substantiated on Golriz, and if there is, I'm sure it will be addressed.

Evidence and facts Dean. Thanks.
 
Political reality is she’s tainted. In all likelihood she will never be convicted and it will be swept under the carpet and she will donate a whole lot of money to charity or something when the PR people clean it up.

There been plenty of dumb behaviour on the right as well like Uffidell, where we all chipped in on something that was child’s play compared to this. Is it only right politicians we can criticise?
In a general answer to a couple of your posts wiz

Uffindell - violence reports. Are you seriously comparing the two? Either way mps should be held to standards and if PROVEN WITH FACT AND EVIDENCE to have breached those then the consequences should occur via the party and any legal avenues. That applies to all parties.

In my opinion all conspiracy antivaxxers should never become mps in the first place either, out of scope of this topic.

Off and on limits - well, if you take into account that mps are human, and there needs to be boundaries respected as per common law and just general civility and respect:
- Convicted offences - public domain
- Personal attacks and speculation - No
- Mental health, physical health, bullying, demeaning remarks - No
- Pony tail pulling - really not sure about this one
- Dedicated attack and black ops organisations within political parties - absolutely shine the light and shame them
- Corruption - 100% yes public domain
- Antivaxxers, conspiracy theorists, grifters - 100% shine the light on them
- Corporate shills? Bought out by the tobacco industry? Hell yeah

General decency really. At the same time, our democracy is under attack by those who seek to break down government and move to an authoritarian right.

I've also got no doubt there's a new wave of right wing black ops going on right now, that will be somewhat removed from certain parties. ZB has moved far right and occupies a Fox News like space now.

The left, whatever that means, are highly disorganised and quite frankly a bit shit.

Meanwhile the right are extremely well organised and financially flush - here's that pesky taxpayers union again - https://badnewsletter.substack.com/...itle&isFreemail=true&r=2rg7a&utm_medium=email
 
I feel like one day soon when the AI finally realises "f*ck this sh!t, here's all the crap your pretty politicians have been doing this past century, go crazy puny humans" and releases all the digital dirt from everyone everywhere on the political spectrum, everyone that aligned themselves as whatever political ideology will have some kind of "well sh!t what do I do now" political identity crisis. 😅


Edit: holy sh!t that "read this now" banner really makes editing posts on a phone ridiculously difficult 🤬
 
I feel like one day soon when the AI finally realises "f*ck this sh!t, here's all the crap your pretty politicians have been doing this past century, go crazy puny humans" and releases all the digital dirt from everyone everywhere on the political spectrum, everyone that aligned themselves as whatever political ideology will have some kind of "well sh!t what do I do now" political identity crisis. 😅


Edit: holy sh!t that "read this now" banner really makes editing posts on a phone ridiculously difficult 🤬
Clinton and Trump all over the Epstein releases last week, nothing happens, lots of Dems and MAGAs just ignore it, refuse to believe it or do whataboutism.
 
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