Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[wizard of Tauranga]

Didn’t see those on the forum who support the left make any comment when 2 ex-MPs from the right (Maggie Barry & Alfred Ngaro) might of overstepped the mark in the last week

Might be because a current MP allegedly shoplifting hits a lot of newsworthy angles:

- high income mp stealing
- lawyer investigated by police
- justice spokesperson allegedly doing crime
- party of the poor shows entitlement
- swanky high end Ponsonby shop targeted by greens MP
- former refugee shows entitlement towards country that adopted her.

You just know Scotties boutique is owned by a capitalist, rich prick, ACT supporter as well to further complicate things. Bet Scortie is a CIS white male as well

So many angles to this.

Greens might need a new policy where their MPs stick to op shopping!

 

[dean]

Greens are just a Party for and of shoplifters and bullies.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Greens are just a Party for and of shoplifters and bullies.

Don’t forget Metiria Turei's spectacular own goal in admitting to benefit fraud during an election campaign.

They seem to have issues with entitlement (self-centred)

Next they will be wanting wealth tax’s because they are entitled to some of what others have earned… hang on… already trying that!

 

[MaybeTop8]

Greens are just a Party for and of shoplifters and bullies.

What a pathetic comment dean.

Speaking of thug bullies, you and wiz are doing a pretty good job yourselves.

I'd be more concerned about the rise of fascism and authoritarianism occurring with the right that we see in this country and around the world.

Your fact free glee at someone else's misfortune says it all.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I'd be more concerned about the rise of fascism and authoritarianism occurring with the right that we see in this country and around the world.

The irony where if the left had more integrity, competence and mana the voters wouldn’t be turning to alternatives…

Politicians make the law and must have much higher standards than the rest of us. Or they are just hypocrites. Particularly anyone that’s got justice type portfolios.

Really, she’s an intelligent woman - wtf was she thinking???

And on the heels of our last justice minister drunken crashing and running from the police.

Unfortunately these sort of entitlement issues really undermine the left cause. Imagine next time the greens talk about wealth taxes - the right will be crying out if you can’t get the law changed you will just steal it! This isn’t bullying - this is the political reality and consequences of her action.

If convicted, she was very, very, VERY stupid.

 

[dean]

What a pathetic comment dean.

Speaking of thug bullies, you and wiz are doing a pretty good job yourselves.

I'd be more concerned about the rise of fascism and authoritarianism occurring with the right that we see in this country and around the world.

Your fact free glee at someone else's misfortune says it all.

You have been rambling on for pages about the corruption of this Govt and centre right parties and you still are.
Fact is, there are law breakers in the Greens and Labour and you get very sensitive if this is pointed out, along with other lefties.
The human rights lawyer, champion for the underdog and justice spokesperson is accused of shoplifting and you want to sweep that under the carpet? It might just be a reflection of the woman she is.

 

[John Nick]

The irony where if the left had more integrity, competence and mana the voters wouldn’t be turning to alternatives…

Politicians make the law and must have much higher standards than the rest of us. Or they are just hypocrites. Particularly anyone that’s got justice type portfolios.

Really, she’s an intelligent woman - wtf was she thinking???

And on the heels of our last justice minister drunken crashing and running from the police.

Unfortunately these sort of entitlement issues really undermine the left cause. Imagine next time the greens talk about wealth taxes - the right will be crying out if you can’t get the law changed you will just steal it! This isn’t bullying - this is the political reality and consequences of her action.

If convicted, she was very, very, VERY stupid.

Why not wait until she has been convicted ?
Police wouldnt even say anyone is under investigation.(probably normal jargon)but..
Surely she has her rights of fair go or cant you guys wait for her blood?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Surely she has her rights of fair gr cant you guys wait for her blood?

Political reality is she’s tainted. In all likelihood she will never be convicted and it will be swept under the carpet and she will donate a whole lot of money to charity or something when the PR people clean it up.

There been plenty of dumb behaviour on the right as well like Uffidell, where we all chipped in on something that was child’s play compared to this. Is it only right politicians we can criticise?

 

[John Nick]

Political reality is she’s tainted. In all likelihood she will never be convicted and it will be swept under the carpet and she will donate a whole lot of money to charity or something when the PR people clean it up.

There been plenty of dumb behaviour on the right as well like Uffidell, where we all chipped in on something that was child’s play compared to this. Is it only right politicians we can criticise?

Agree with your first sentence .
However to compare shoplifting to bashing a young kid is ridiculous.
Over the years theres been heaps of politicians who have been tainted whether fact or trial by media.
And from all aspects of the political spectrum.
I prefer to see the outcome if in fact there is anything to see.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

However to compare shoplifting to bashing a young kid is ridiculous.

I consider a senior and experienced MP and current party justice spokesman allegedly shop lifting as 100x worse than someone who 20 years as a school kid did a stupid initiation prank where the kid wasn’t injured.

1st one shows her morals and character now. Second one was an immature testosterone fuelled kid whose frontal lobe was still developing.

1st one is just an entitled hypocrite - 2nd one was most of us back in the day wasn’t it?

 

[Noitall]

Agree with your first sentence .
However to compare shoplifting to bashing a young kid is ridiculous.
Over the years theres been heaps of politicians who have been tainted whether fact or trial by media.
And from all aspects of the political spectrum.
I prefer to see the outcome if in fact there is anything to see.

In today’s world I think we need to gather as much information and make our own informed decisions John Nick, because we’re often offered someone else’s view from media. My personal view is there’s more to this story because it makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[John Nick]

In today’s world I think we need to gather as much information and make our own informed decisions John Nick, because we’re often offered someone else’s view from media. My personal view is there’s more to this story because it makes no sense whatsoever.

Absolutely. As we all know the media is after headlines & not always facts.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Rumour is she was sacrificed herself trying to keep the crime stats up so they don’t look better under National. You guys criticising her don’t understand her dedication to the cause!

And she wasn’t just minister of justice, she was also the Greens Minister of Trade - this is just how trade looks under Greens economics. Nothing to see here. She’s not really a capitalist social climber stealing label brands…

Gucci Gol's, 2 fast 2 Allan, Meka the Muss and Tipsy Whanau. That’s an inspirational group

 

[Inruin]

Cost of living: New Zealand's inflation set to gradually fall in 2024 as United Nations issues grim warning​

A United Nations report is warning high rental prices are likely to limit progress on curbing New Zealand's high inflation rate this year, meaning the cost of living crisis is not over yet.

The United Nations released its 2024 World Economic Situation and Prospects report last week which projects inflation in New Zealand to fall fairly gradually over the next 12 months.

The report said New Zealand's inflation will remain "relatively high" in 2024 due to an acceleration in rental prices driven by housing supply shortages.

New Zealand's consumer price index is projected to fall to 3.4 percent in 2024 before dropping to 2.6 percent in 2025.

Kiwis have been battling the cost of living crisis since 2021 with inflation currently remaining stubbornly high at 5.6 percent - more than double the Reserve Bank's (RBNZ) target.

The UN's consumer price forecasts are slightly behind what Treasury has predicted for when New Zealand will return to the RBNZ's target band of 1-3 percent.

Treasury released its Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) in December, which predicted inflation would fall within the target band in late 2024.

The UN report said the economic situation in New Zealand and other developed economies in Asia-Pacific like Australia is facing "strong headwinds".

The UN has pencilled in real GDP growth of 1 percent for New Zealand in 2023, with the official data for the final quarter of the year yet to be released. That's down from 2.7 percent in 2022. The UN is expecting growth to edge up to 1.1 percent in 2024 and 2.2 percent in 2025.

"External demand from major trading partners (including the United States and China) has weakened, while monetary tightening in Australia, New Zealand and the Republic of Korea has constrained domestic demand growth," the report said.

"Growing fiscal consolidation efforts following large fiscal expansions during the COVID-19 pandemic are further depressing domestic demand. While the Governments have implemented policy measures to help their citizens cope with the cost-of-living crisis over the past two years, the impact of these measures has been largely neutral or weak in terms of affecting economic expansion."

New Zealand's labour market also surged to record lows during the COVID-19 pandemic and the report predicts it's going to remain "tight" this year despite record migration.

"Tight labour market conditions led to rapid wage growth, which continued even after the headline inflation rate peaked in 2022, particularly in Australia and New Zealand," the report read.

"While nominal wage growth has been driving current inflation, the consequent negative real wage growth has eroded household purchasing power."

United Nations secretary-general António Guterres had a grim message about the economic outlook for 2024, saying this year was projected to be another tough year.

Guterres said sluggish global growth, weak investment, spiralling debt crisis, devastating conflicts and escalating extreme weather events are bringing uncertainty and risk to the global economy.

"The result: development delayed and denied. 2024 must be the year when we break out of this quagmire," he said in the report.

"By unlocking big, bold investments we can drive sustainable development and climate action, and put the global economy on a stronger growth path for all."

It comes as Kiwis continue to battle the cost of living crisis. The price of food is an unwanted headache, with Stats NZ releasing figures in November showing food prices remained 6 percent higher in November last year than they were 12 months earlier.

New Zealand is also on the brink of another recession after the RBNZ revealed in December gross domestic product had fallen by 0.3 percent in the September quarter from the June quarter.

This means New Zealand is only one quarter away from being in a technical recession. The next update is due in March.

Then adding to all this, thousands of Kiwis are re-fixing their mortgages from a low rate seen during COVID-19 of around 2-3 percent to new rates of around 6-7 percent.

'Strong headwinds': UN's grim economic prediction for New Zealand

A United Nations report says New Zealand's inflation will remain "relatively high" in 2024.

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

Rumour is she was sacrificed herself trying to keep the crime stats up so they don’t look better under National. You guys criticising her don’t understand her dedication to the cause!

And she wasn’t just minister of justice, she was also the Greens Minister of Trade - this is just how trade looks under Greens economics. Nothing to see here. She’s not really a capitalist social climber stealing label brands…

Gucci Gol's, 2 fast 2 Allan, Meka the Muss and Tipsy Whanau. That’s an inspirational group

Easy to attack others when you're part of the lynch mob, right Dean? Right Wiz?

 

[Inruin]

Easy to attack others when you're part of the lynch mob, right Dean? Right Wiz?

isn't that quite an ironic comment

 

[miket12]

Cost of living: New Zealand's inflation set to gradually fall in 2024 as United Nations issues grim warning​

A United Nations report is warning high rental prices are likely to limit progress on curbing New Zealand's high inflation rate this year, meaning the cost of living crisis is not over yet.

The United Nations released its 2024 World Economic Situation and Prospects report last week which projects inflation in New Zealand to fall fairly gradually over the next 12 months.

The report said New Zealand's inflation will remain "relatively high" in 2024 due to an acceleration in rental prices driven by housing supply shortages.

New Zealand's consumer price index is projected to fall to 3.4 percent in 2024 before dropping to 2.6 percent in 2025.

Kiwis have been battling the cost of living crisis since 2021 with inflation currently remaining stubbornly high at 5.6 percent - more than double the Reserve Bank's (RBNZ) target.

The UN's consumer price forecasts are slightly behind what Treasury has predicted for when New Zealand will return to the RBNZ's target band of 1-3 percent.

Treasury released its Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) in December, which predicted inflation would fall within the target band in late 2024.

The UN report said the economic situation in New Zealand and other developed economies in Asia-Pacific like Australia is facing "strong headwinds".

The UN has pencilled in real GDP growth of 1 percent for New Zealand in 2023, with the official data for the final quarter of the year yet to be released. That's down from 2.7 percent in 2022. The UN is expecting growth to edge up to 1.1 percent in 2024 and 2.2 percent in 2025.

"External demand from major trading partners (including the United States and China) has weakened, while monetary tightening in Australia, New Zealand and the Republic of Korea has constrained domestic demand growth," the report said.

"Growing fiscal consolidation efforts following large fiscal expansions during the COVID-19 pandemic are further depressing domestic demand. While the Governments have implemented policy measures to help their citizens cope with the cost-of-living crisis over the past two years, the impact of these measures has been largely neutral or weak in terms of affecting economic expansion."

New Zealand's labour market also surged to record lows during the COVID-19 pandemic and the report predicts it's going to remain "tight" this year despite record migration.

"Tight labour market conditions led to rapid wage growth, which continued even after the headline inflation rate peaked in 2022, particularly in Australia and New Zealand," the report read.

"While nominal wage growth has been driving current inflation, the consequent negative real wage growth has eroded household purchasing power."

United Nations secretary-general António Guterres had a grim message about the economic outlook for 2024, saying this year was projected to be another tough year.

Guterres said sluggish global growth, weak investment, spiralling debt crisis, devastating conflicts and escalating extreme weather events are bringing uncertainty and risk to the global economy.

"The result: development delayed and denied. 2024 must be the year when we break out of this quagmire," he said in the report.

"By unlocking big, bold investments we can drive sustainable development and climate action, and put the global economy on a stronger growth path for all."

It comes as Kiwis continue to battle the cost of living crisis. The price of food is an unwanted headache, with Stats NZ releasing figures in November showing food prices remained 6 percent higher in November last year than they were 12 months earlier.

New Zealand is also on the brink of another recession after the RBNZ revealed in December gross domestic product had fallen by 0.3 percent in the September quarter from the June quarter.

This means New Zealand is only one quarter away from being in a technical recession. The next update is due in March.

Then adding to all this, thousands of Kiwis are re-fixing their mortgages from a low rate seen during COVID-19 of around 2-3 percent to new rates of around 6-7 percent.

'Strong headwinds': UN's grim economic prediction for New Zealand

A United Nations report says New Zealand's inflation will remain "relatively high" in 2024.

www.newshub.co.nz

And yet there’s three political parties willing to sacrifice renters just to insure landlords can’t claim an expense every other business in NZ can.

 

[John Nick]

isn't that quite an ironic comment

The only irony here is its true

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Easy to attack others when you're part of the lynch mob, right Dean? Right Wiz?

Aren’t the rules of the game, that the left bash right politicians when they do anything wrong, the right do the opposite. Then we all bash Winston and Trump no matter what?

Or have I got the rules wrong? Isn’t it all just a game that the MP’s sign up to take part in?

 

[MaybeTop8]

no

isn't that quite an ironic comment