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[MaybeTop8]

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Why can't we solve the problem rather than sweep it under the carpet?

Because it doesn't fit with the neoliberal right

 

[MaybeTop8]

NZ spends nearly half a billion dollars on homelessness. That number has been steadily increasing. Please look into global empirical evidence. California spent $20B on homelessness and the rate doubled. Now they are blocking audits into where the money went.

As I said, asylums and harsher sentencing for vagrant criminals. That would solve 75% of the issue, less than the 93% estimated by the US DEA

The politics you and others on the right here endorse are a major cause of homelessness.

Complex problems require intelligent empathic solutions.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Well nothing is happening so the status quo stays.

The problem is they aren't getting help and homelessness is getting more. Wellington 15 years ago was essentially blanket man and a couple of others. There are heaps now.

Neoliberalism.

 

[tyrael]

Yeah I think the mental health angle needs a lot more work

I imagine a lot of these people should actually be in proper care facilities

What's my solution? I'd tidy up the ACC system and reallocate a lot of funding to mental health care facilities. ACC is leaky as f*ck, and a lot of that health money should be better spent on fixing health, rather than massages for sprains

I think money is one thing. We are spending a lot on accommodation but perhaps not enough on long term solutions and/or preventions.

I would love a bipartisan bill around mental health. It shouldn't just be one government giving one charity (I am hope) a wad of cash. There are many ways to help and if there are many avenues to seek help. Hopefully those people get the support.

Mitey. JKs in school program is a bit wishy washy and needs refinement. Voices of Hope do great things but undervalued.
Youthline needs more funding etc etc.

 

[Noitall]

Seems like this will be unpopular on top of national’s unpopularity. Credit for being transparent but I don’t think it’s going to be a vote winner and completely against Winston’s wishes I would imagine

 

[tyrael]

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Seems like this will be unpopular on top of national’s unpopularity. Credit for being transparent but I don’t think it’s going to be a vote winner and completely against Winston’s wishes I would imagine

Yeah. I don't know how this wins him any votes. Australians pension is 67 and a few other countries too. Didn't France raise theirs from 63 to 65 and caused chaos?

65 is already old enough man.

 

[John Nick]

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Seems like this will be unpopular on top of national’s unpopularity. Credit for being transparent but I don’t think it’s going to be a vote winner and completely against Winston’s wishes I would imagine

TBF Winston will be critical of Luxon and National on every possible until the election

 

[Noitall]

Yeah. I don't know how this wins him any votes. Australians pension is 67 and a few other countries too. Didn't France raise theirs from 63 to 65 and caused chaos?

65 is already old enough man.

I think it will go up in time but I don’t see Luxon as the one to sell it

 

[Worried2Death]

I think it will go up in time but I don’t see Luxon as the one to sell it

This is a dilemma for my generation, not enough taxpayers to support us in our dotage.
How many years are you away from retiring your paint brush Rembrandt?

 

[defensivebomb]

I think money is one thing. We are spending a lot on accommodation but perhaps not enough on long term solutions and/or preventions.

I would love a bipartisan bill around mental health. It shouldn't just be one government giving one charity (I am hope) a wad of cash. There are many ways to help and if there are many avenues to seek help. Hopefully those people get the support.

Mitey. JKs in school program is a bit wishy washy and needs refinement. Voices of Hope do great things but undervalued.
Youthline needs more funding etc etc.

The other idea I had this arvo is super harsh penalties on super harsh penalties on kiddy fiddlers / domestic abusers etc, and making it easier to report. Somehow stop people growing up with abuse problems. So they don’t turn to drink / drugs later in life

A slow burn but hopefully gets closer to the cause of people’s lives heading south

 

[MaybeTop8]

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[defensivebomb]

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Seems like this will be unpopular on top of national’s unpopularity. Credit for being transparent but I don’t think it’s going to be a vote winner and completely against Winston’s wishes I would imagine

Good on him for actually having the gumption to recognise the ticking clock

 

[Noitall]

This is a dilemma for my generation, not enough taxpayers to support us in our dotage.
How many years are you away from retiring your paint brush Rembrandt?

Still a while away. Certainly won’t be there by the time I get there if I’m fortunate enough

 

[John Nick]

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Unbelievably dumb decision to make the only rescue vessel redundant.
Now with the aging fleet this mob are talking about cutting back on MNZ staff at a time when checks and balances are more important than ever.
Kaitaki report came out this week and showed how fortunate the huge number of passengers and crew were to not end up on the rocks. Don't these guys listen

 

[kos]

Yeah. I don't know how this wins him any votes. Australians pension is 67 and a few other countries too. Didn't France raise theirs from 63 to 65 and caused chaos?

65 is already old enough man.

Yes it’s 67 in Aus
Plus it’s means (income) and asset tested
My wife works (63) and clears 900 a week
Thus I get only about 40 per cent of the Aus pension and because I was born in Nz and have only lived 30!years in Aus Aus get Nz to pay 2/3 of it
So it’s quite different to Nz where you get the full amount no questions asked rich or poor

 

[Noitall]

Plus it’s means (income) and asset tested

That should be the first avenue NZ explores. It’s funny in NZ, there’s a feeling of entitlement that are placed upon some yet our pm took a clean car subsidy and learnt māori on the taxpayer before scrapping them despite being someone who could comfortably foot the bill. Would be interesting to see who stomped their feet if means testing was employed?

 

[defensivebomb]

To be honest, it should be universally 70 years old, and means tested. Bring the cost right down

 

[kos]

To be honest, it should be universally 70 years old, and means tested. Bring the cost right down

Yeah right
How does that fit with people who do physical jobs
Tradespeople
To name one
Bodies fxxd at 55 if they are lucky
70 is ott
My mother who s 100 this year retired and went on a pension at 60

 

[tyrael]

To be honest, it should be universally 70 years old, and means tested. Bring the cost right down

māori men die around 74 years old. Essentially work until you die if it's 70.

 

[kos]

And it’s prob younger for Australian indigenous people.