Have to apologise to Damo.
Looked at the invite again and Todd McClay doesn't have a table so no point really.
Looked at the invite again and Todd McClay doesn't have a table so no point really.
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Went to a friend's place last weekend for a retirement party. He's had over 40 years with the NZ Police. He gave a short speech and recounted some harrowing things that had happened to him and some of his colleagues... pretty sure we got the G-rated version of events.
He also said about some of the lighter sides of the job. A couple of years ago, one dairy in West Auckland had been ramraided a number of times. The owner had kept putting in stronger bollards and window grills but nothing seemed to stop them.
Then, one night, a call came in that it had been hit again. The responding unit found a stolen car firmly wedged between two steel bollards and an unconscious driver. Sick of having to repair the front of his shop, the owner had not just installed new bollards a few weeks earlier, he had the contractors fill them with concrete and reinforcing.
He also said about some of the lighter sides of the job. A couple of years ago, one dairy in West Auckland had been ramraided a number of times. The owner had kept putting in stronger bollards and window grills but nothing seemed to stop them.
Then, one night, a call came in that it had been hit again. The responding unit found a stolen car firmly wedged between two steel bollards and an unconscious driver. Sick of having to repair the front of his shop, the owner had not just installed new bollards a few weeks earlier, he had the contractors fill them with concrete and reinforcing.
My education is complete, old dog, new tricks etc especially in this thread. Plus the Gruppenfuhrer wouldn't be too happy. It's actually pretty disappointing that Agriculture doesn't get a mention.
Did go to a Labour dinner when they were in power and sat with Megan Woods. I liked her and thought she was pretty honest, if a bit light in energy. I had met her a couple of times earlier at the Deloitte Energy awards.
She did remark that the whole caucus was blindsided by the PMs decision to cancel future offshore permits and then she had to front up for explanations as the leader had shot the gap to Paris.
Forgot to say that the dinner thing and fundraising is inter party. Note that this is a National Party fundraiser not a Coalition gig.
And I wouldn't want to sit at Baldy's table anyway, guy is a twat
Not many in that joint that aren't Rick
Don't want to be identified as a liar?
Post evidence, fact and quotes, links that link to the source.
It's extremely rare that I post Matthew Hooton - but he's spot on with this.
This government is mishandling this situation entirely.
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The war in Iran has created fuel supply concerns around the world. Photo Sasan / Middle East Images / via AFP
The war in Iran has created fuel supply concerns around the world. Photo Sasan / Middle East Images / via AFP
Thought Covid was bad? If New Zealand runs out of diesel, Covid will look like the rehearsal. The effects on the economy, social cohesion, law and order and even life expectancy would be worse.
Still sceptical? During Covid, we may have had to queue up at supermarkets, wear masks and keep our distance to buy food. But there was never any threat to delivery trucks being able to supply the supermarkets, harvesters to pick fruit and vegetables, stock trucks to pick up cattle and sheep, tankers to collect milk or fishing boats to head out to sea.
Nor were ambulances or fire engines ever unable to operate.
All that basic activity is now at risk of ceasing within weeks. Greater urgency is needed from Finance Minister Nicola Willis’ crisis-response team and a more constructive offering of alternative ideas from Chris Hipkins’ Opposition.
When the United States and Israel attacked Iran a month ago, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon declared that “[r]elative to any of the other 195 countries in the world that are dealing with the same impacts of this conflict, we are incredibly well positioned”.
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His optimism echoed Hipkins’ assurance as Covid-19 Minister in November 2020 that “when vaccines come to the market, we will be at the front of the queue”.
But even more sophisticated leaders are capable of embarrassing clangers.
Just months before Al-Qaeda attacked the US in 2001, Prime Minister Helen Clark infamously declared that New Zealand existed in an “incredibly benign strategic environment”.
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Combined, the three faux pas reflect Kiwis’ delusion that geographical isolation is somehow an advantage and New Zealand is a well-known, well-regarded first-world country that “punches above our weight” both economically and in international affairs.
The current crisis should remind us that, in a deeply interconnected world, events 15,000km and 10 time zones away can affect us as much as they do the rest of the world. Being the last station on the southern line makes New Zealand more vulnerable to disruptions to supply lines, not less. And not being in the top 50 world economies – and with high debt and increasing borrowing costs – means we have no special claim on the world’s resources.
Far from being “incredibly well positioned”, we are among the most vulnerable to the impacts of the current crisis, except for the Gulf states and Israel, directly engaged in hostilities.
The Taxpayers’ Union’s excellent new FuelClock.nz brings together all the relevant Government data, plus information from the private sector and abroad.
The exact supply situation is disputed. The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) was forced to admit yesterday that it may have been confused by ships being discharged in port. In contrast, the union yesterday afternoon stood by its FuelClock.nz that indicated New Zealand had just 14 days’ supply of diesel onshore, plus another seven days confirmed as on its way.
This differs from MBIE’s estimates, which include vessels that haven’t yet been confirmed by automatic identification system (AIS) tracking – in other words, are only likely or scheduled.
As with the Covid vaccine, frantic efforts are underway to secure more diesel, but if they are unsuccessful, FuelClock.nz suggests that New Zealand could run out of diesel on April 16 under business-as-usual. Even with an emergency lockdown, it suggested diesel stocks might run dry as early as the end of next month.
According to predictions markets, informed both by the wisdom of crowds and insider trading, the probability of a ceasefire by the end of April and a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz is no better than a third.
There is more than a 50% probability that fighting will continue until the end of June, and only a 54% probability of peace by Christmas.
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew and is now desperate for a ceasefire. But Iran has little incentive to agree, and both the Arab states and Israel understand that the Khomeinist regime and its terrorist Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) cannot now be left in power. “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” applies just as much to the Ayatollahs as anyone else.
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew in attacking Iran. Photo / Kyle Mazza / NurPhoto via AFP
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew in attacking Iran. Photo / Kyle Mazza / NurPhoto via AFP
If Trump walks away, Iran will be entitled to declare victory and exercise hegemony over the Strait of Hormuz, including deciding which ships may sail through it.
Neither geographical isolation nor the collapsed rules-based system will protect New Zealand from the fallout, far less any gauche displays of moral superiority of the sort being recommended on Luxon by the Greens and others on the far left.
More so even than securing Covid vaccines five years ago, this is an era of the most brutal and amoral realpolitik, with states seeking economic self-sufficiency rather than the benefits of mature international trade.
Australia is trying to aggressively push itself to the front of the queue for diesel, petrol and jet fuel by using its market power in coal and iron-sands markets.
“You want coal?” Canberra is asking. “Then gizza your diesel.”
New Zealand may have lowered its environmental standards for fuel on Monday to match Australia’s, but Canberra has since lowered theirs again.
In a Mad Max world, it’s always a race to the bottom.
For his part, Luxon is conducting urgent telephone diplomacy with the likes of Singapore, South Korea and Malaysia. To use one of the Prime Minister’s favourite words, this really is a situation where he should be “hustling”, including in the most disreputable dictionary sense.
“We’ve got food,” he ought to be saying, “and, if you want some, your money’s no good here – the price is diesel, jet fuel and petrol.” This will require some sort of state control over international trade that we haven’t seen since 1984 – but, then, we’ve never faced a crisis of this potential magnitude since then either.
Diesel rationing needs to be implemented urgently, while knowing that even the strictest regime will only buy us a few more weeks if regular shipments don’t resume soon. Just as it would have been better had Jacinda Ardern acted against Covid in late February or early March rather than wait, the sooner tough measures are taken, the better off we will all be.
Of course, the war may end tomorrow, our oil companies and political leaders might succeed in securing more diesel for New Zealand than those in Australia and elsewhere, and this will all turn out to have been a false alarm.
But I would much rather that this column’s call to action soon becomes as embarrassing for me as Luxon’s, Hipkins’ and Clark’s unfortunate pronouncements above, than the alternative, where our ability to feed even ourselves, let alone our export markets, comes into question over the next 21 days.
This government is mishandling this situation entirely.
Matthew Hooton: Diesel running out really would be a Mad Max world
OPINION: Nicola Willis needs to ration diesel immediately to delay social collapse.
Matthew Hooton
NZ Herald·
27 Mar, 2026 05:00 AM
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Matthew Hooton has more than 30 years’ experience in political and corporate strategy, including the National and Act parties.
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The war in Iran has created fuel supply concerns around the world. Photo Sasan / Middle East Images / via AFP
The war in Iran has created fuel supply concerns around the world. Photo Sasan / Middle East Images / via AFP
Thought Covid was bad? If New Zealand runs out of diesel, Covid will look like the rehearsal. The effects on the economy, social cohesion, law and order and even life expectancy would be worse.
Still sceptical? During Covid, we may have had to queue up at supermarkets, wear masks and keep our distance to buy food. But there was never any threat to delivery trucks being able to supply the supermarkets, harvesters to pick fruit and vegetables, stock trucks to pick up cattle and sheep, tankers to collect milk or fishing boats to head out to sea.
Nor were ambulances or fire engines ever unable to operate.
All that basic activity is now at risk of ceasing within weeks. Greater urgency is needed from Finance Minister Nicola Willis’ crisis-response team and a more constructive offering of alternative ideas from Chris Hipkins’ Opposition.
When the United States and Israel attacked Iran a month ago, Prime Minister Christopher Luxon declared that “[r]elative to any of the other 195 countries in the world that are dealing with the same impacts of this conflict, we are incredibly well positioned”.
Advertise with NZME.
His optimism echoed Hipkins’ assurance as Covid-19 Minister in November 2020 that “when vaccines come to the market, we will be at the front of the queue”.
But even more sophisticated leaders are capable of embarrassing clangers.
Just months before Al-Qaeda attacked the US in 2001, Prime Minister Helen Clark infamously declared that New Zealand existed in an “incredibly benign strategic environment”.
Advertisement
Advertise with NZME.
Combined, the three faux pas reflect Kiwis’ delusion that geographical isolation is somehow an advantage and New Zealand is a well-known, well-regarded first-world country that “punches above our weight” both economically and in international affairs.
The current crisis should remind us that, in a deeply interconnected world, events 15,000km and 10 time zones away can affect us as much as they do the rest of the world. Being the last station on the southern line makes New Zealand more vulnerable to disruptions to supply lines, not less. And not being in the top 50 world economies – and with high debt and increasing borrowing costs – means we have no special claim on the world’s resources.
Far from being “incredibly well positioned”, we are among the most vulnerable to the impacts of the current crisis, except for the Gulf states and Israel, directly engaged in hostilities.
The Taxpayers’ Union’s excellent new FuelClock.nz brings together all the relevant Government data, plus information from the private sector and abroad.
The exact supply situation is disputed. The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) was forced to admit yesterday that it may have been confused by ships being discharged in port. In contrast, the union yesterday afternoon stood by its FuelClock.nz that indicated New Zealand had just 14 days’ supply of diesel onshore, plus another seven days confirmed as on its way.
This differs from MBIE’s estimates, which include vessels that haven’t yet been confirmed by automatic identification system (AIS) tracking – in other words, are only likely or scheduled.
As with the Covid vaccine, frantic efforts are underway to secure more diesel, but if they are unsuccessful, FuelClock.nz suggests that New Zealand could run out of diesel on April 16 under business-as-usual. Even with an emergency lockdown, it suggested diesel stocks might run dry as early as the end of next month.
According to predictions markets, informed both by the wisdom of crowds and insider trading, the probability of a ceasefire by the end of April and a reopening of the Strait of Hormuz is no better than a third.
There is more than a 50% probability that fighting will continue until the end of June, and only a 54% probability of peace by Christmas.
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew and is now desperate for a ceasefire. But Iran has little incentive to agree, and both the Arab states and Israel understand that the Khomeinist regime and its terrorist Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) cannot now be left in power. “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” applies just as much to the Ayatollahs as anyone else.
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew in attacking Iran. Photo / Kyle Mazza / NurPhoto via AFP
US President Donald Trump seems to have recognised he has bitten off more than he can chew in attacking Iran. Photo / Kyle Mazza / NurPhoto via AFP
If Trump walks away, Iran will be entitled to declare victory and exercise hegemony over the Strait of Hormuz, including deciding which ships may sail through it.
Neither geographical isolation nor the collapsed rules-based system will protect New Zealand from the fallout, far less any gauche displays of moral superiority of the sort being recommended on Luxon by the Greens and others on the far left.
More so even than securing Covid vaccines five years ago, this is an era of the most brutal and amoral realpolitik, with states seeking economic self-sufficiency rather than the benefits of mature international trade.
Australia is trying to aggressively push itself to the front of the queue for diesel, petrol and jet fuel by using its market power in coal and iron-sands markets.
“You want coal?” Canberra is asking. “Then gizza your diesel.”
New Zealand may have lowered its environmental standards for fuel on Monday to match Australia’s, but Canberra has since lowered theirs again.
In a Mad Max world, it’s always a race to the bottom.
For his part, Luxon is conducting urgent telephone diplomacy with the likes of Singapore, South Korea and Malaysia. To use one of the Prime Minister’s favourite words, this really is a situation where he should be “hustling”, including in the most disreputable dictionary sense.
“We’ve got food,” he ought to be saying, “and, if you want some, your money’s no good here – the price is diesel, jet fuel and petrol.” This will require some sort of state control over international trade that we haven’t seen since 1984 – but, then, we’ve never faced a crisis of this potential magnitude since then either.
Diesel rationing needs to be implemented urgently, while knowing that even the strictest regime will only buy us a few more weeks if regular shipments don’t resume soon. Just as it would have been better had Jacinda Ardern acted against Covid in late February or early March rather than wait, the sooner tough measures are taken, the better off we will all be.
Of course, the war may end tomorrow, our oil companies and political leaders might succeed in securing more diesel for New Zealand than those in Australia and elsewhere, and this will all turn out to have been a false alarm.
But I would much rather that this column’s call to action soon becomes as embarrassing for me as Luxon’s, Hipkins’ and Clark’s unfortunate pronouncements above, than the alternative, where our ability to feed even ourselves, let alone our export markets, comes into question over the next 21 days.
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Nope. You make the statement, present it as fact, you provide the proof. Otherwise it's a lie.Like claiming someone doesn’t pay any tax
Googles free for you to look up Hipkins
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An opinion isn’t claiming a fact. If you don’t understand the difference you shouldn’t be posting on here!
Here’s some reading for you. Now provide your evidence about not paying tax
The Covid vaccine and the risk to under 18s: Hipkins defends not making advice public
Labour leader says he never shared medical info during the pandemic beyond the high-level.
Cabinet paper shows Hipkins received ‘unnecessary risk’ advice about Covid jab for teens
When Hipkins had the advice, about 30,000 12-17s were yet to have a second vaccine.
An opinion isn’t claiming a fact. If you don’t understand the difference you shouldn’t be posting on here!
Here’s some reading for you. Now provide your evidence about not paying tax
The Covid vaccine and the risk to under 18s: Hipkins defends not making advice public
Labour leader says he never shared medical info during the pandemic beyond the high-level.
Cabinet paper shows Hipkins received ‘unnecessary risk’ advice about Covid jab for teens
When Hipkins had the advice, about 30,000 12-17s were yet to have a second vaccine.
The above is your statement. That is a lie.
That's actually quite concerning particularly as ot is regarding our kids.An opinion isn’t claiming a fact. If you don’t understand the difference you shouldn’t be posting on here!
Here’s some reading for you. Now provide your evidence about not paying tax
The Covid vaccine and the risk to under 18s: Hipkins defends not making advice public
Labour leader says he never shared medical info during the pandemic beyond the high-level.
Cabinet paper shows Hipkins received ‘unnecessary risk’ advice about Covid jab for teens
When Hipkins had the advice, about 30,000 12-17s were yet to have a second vaccine.
And to say he never saw the advice even though clearly it was presented to him is simply astounding.
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You lot are dancing on the head of a pin. And wiz is lying, again.
The current government are misleading all of New Zealand on how dire this current petrol/diesel crisis is, as a result of an unnecessary war started by warmongers who come from the hard right of the political spectrum.
Surprised the media isn’t making more of this given the potential consequences for Hipkins.
What is more critical to New Zealand - conjecture in the right wing media as a distraction for the disaster of this government or the looming massive economic crisis driven by the war in Iran?
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