Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Noitall]

He was sentenced to 26 months!!! So his right to vote in prison is currently being vigorously defended by TPM, Labour and the Greens

I'm of the view that he kissed those rights away when he started offending against children under his care

As a side note, I agree with your earlier points regarding name suppression etc

I didn’t read it properly obviously, but 26 months for his offending is pitiful. Deserves a hell of a lot more than that and the loss of voting privileges

 

[MaybeTop8]

Look at this.

Fast and fudged: Crimes bill omits crimes

In most things pushing hard and pushing fast can lead to mistakes. Legislating is no different, as the government keeps showing - under record urgency.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

What a bunch of regressive pricks sending us back to the past.

 

[MaybeTop8]

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2512/S00026/on-the-shrinking-lack-of-alternatives-here-and-in-the-us.htm

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

In prison are generally criminals, but also plenty with severe mental illness issues that the system has let them down

Are we saying people with mental illnesses shouldn’t be able to vote as well?

I’m for that. If you can’t handle society, how can you decide who runs the country?

But realistically, the arguments over criminals voting - they are a tiny percentage of the population and most wouldn’t bother voting anyway. Not worth worrying about really.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

The K graph was pre COVID
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Wow - public services excess wage growth and everything private is getting better value for money.

Lucky they didn’t include rates and taxes… the graph doesn’t go high enough!

 

[Noitall]

Are we saying people with mental illnesses shouldn’t be able to vote as well?

I’m for that. If you can’t handle society, how can you decide who runs the country?

But realistically, the arguments over criminals voting - they are a tiny percentage of the population and most wouldn’t bother voting anyway. Not worth worrying about really.

I think the whole point around the 3 year mark was the academics of the opinion that it gives them an opportunity to integrate back into society among the benefits. No I’m not of that opinion myself regarding those suffering from mental health, you deserve a vote as much as anyone

 

[MaybeTop8]

Of the rich, by the rich, for the rich

Big-money backing: The billionaires and developers who helped Brown to landslide win

Wayne Brown's financial backers include Graeme Hart and Marc Ellis.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Hey @MaybeTop8 I’d just like to thank you for your support in 2025 - I’ve just read my ‘wrapped’ summary & you were kind enough to reply to 12% of my posts this year. That’s makes you my number 1 fan, & I’m sure you’ve been an even bigger fan of others on here like Wiz. Thanks legend!

 

[Worried2Death]

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2512/S00026/on-the-shrinking-lack-of-alternatives-here-and-in-the-us.htm

Gordy's on point with the US piece, organised crime on a scale barely comprehensible to the average citizen, the Warner Paramount deal is like a who's who of the Epstein list. God I'm going to miss Erin Burnett and Brianna Keilar though, there'll be no reason to watch CNN now.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Hey @MaybeTop8 I’d just like to thank you for your support in 2025 - I’ve just read my ‘wrapped’ summary & you were kind enough to reply to 12% of my posts this year. That’s makes you my number 1 fan, & I’m sure you’ve been an even bigger fan of others on here like Wiz. Thanks legend!

You're more than welcome as long as you remain number 3 on my list. Sorry, the walking disinformation campaign from Tauranga came first.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You're more than welcome as long as you remain number 3 on my list. Sorry, the walking disinformation campaign from Tauranga came first.

Merry Christmas. As my number 1 replied I’m obviously a big part of your time on this site!

2026 is going to be a cracker with an election and Warriors finals season both at the same time

 

[MaybeTop8]

Very true, especially now

The austerity delusion | Paul Krugman

The long read: The case for cuts was a lie. Why does Britain still believe it?

www.theguardian.com

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Very true, especially now

The austerity delusion | Paul Krugman

The long read: The case for cuts was a lie. Why does Britain still believe it?

www.theguardian.com

What is the optimal rate of taxation?

We can always tax more, when do we say we need to live within our means.

What is the ‘right’ amount?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Australia: A Guardian Essential Poll, released on Wednesday after Barnaby Joyce said he would defect to One Nation, showed support for the right-wing populist party on a primary vote had reached 17%

The result, the party’s highest ever put them third behind Labor’s 34% and the Coalition’s 26%

Looking like a very Trumpish.

What do we think @MrFrankWhite and @Lord Gnome of Mooloolaba?

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Australia: A Guardian Essential Poll, released on Wednesday after Barnaby Joyce said he would defect to One Nation, showed support for the right-wing populist party on a primary vote had reached 17%

The result, the party’s highest ever put them third behind Labor’s 34% and the Coalition’s 26%

Looking like a very Trumpish.

What do we think @MrFrankWhite and @Lord Gnome of Mooloolaba?

Barnaby is a clown and Pauline Hanson votes with the Uniparty on nearly all matters. Complete destruction of the Liberal party is necessary though.

 

[Worried2Death]

Barnaby is a clown and Pauline Hanson votes with the Uniparty on nearly all matters. Complete destruction of the Liberal party is necessary though.

I read this in the voice of a Dalek

 

[MaybeTop8]

Labour are toast. Milquetoast


View: https://bsky.app/profile/bumblebigirl.bsky.social/post/3m7vprqwbzc2o

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Labour are toast. Milquetoast


View: https://bsky.app/profile/bumblebigirl.bsky.social/post/3m7vprqwbzc2o

Quote of the article from Hipkins:

"We've had a series of governments now who have encouraged people to be aspirational for New Zealand and have promised things that have been completely unrealistic. I don't think we can afford to do that anymore. I think people will lose faith in a whole democratic system if we see politicians continuing to do that, I'm not going to fall into that trap."

Looks like he’s highly critical of Jacinda’s aspirational leadership and acknowledging it was hugely divisive, a complete failure and harmful to democracy.

 

[defensivebomb]

Quote of the article from Hipkins:

"We've had a series of governments now who have encouraged people to be aspirational for New Zealand and have promised things that have been completely unrealistic. I don't think we can afford to do that anymore. I think people will lose faith in a whole democratic system if we see politicians continuing to do that, I'm not going to fall into that trap."

Looks like he’s highly critical of Jacinda’s aspirational leadership and acknowledging it was hugely divisive, a complete failure and harmful to democracy.

Looks like he’s angling for the loser vote