Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics
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Local Water Done Well: Council plans to cost $9b more than expected https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/politica...l-council-plans-to-cost-9b-more-than-expected
Dunno, but I did see your Mum there the other day?
Unless you are talking paedoes - they all seem to be right wingers and/or Christians.
Let’s see the offending data on race, ethnicity and religion then
TPM seems to be pretty keen to ensure incarcerated paedos are able to vote at election time
It's the unicarcerated ones in the Act and National parties you should be worried about.
Wow Ben Doyle was Act and National too? Busy bussy
Do convictions exclude you from human rights? Citizenship? It's a slippery slope, one the right often go down, unsurprisingly
Of course it does. Being incarcerated is obviously a loss of freedom which is one of the few fundamental rights.
Is the link between sexual deviancy and political leanings a linear continuum, whereby the far right voters are paedos, the far left voters are saints, and the centralists are sometimes good and sometimes bad?
If so, it would make trials a lot easier. The lawyers could just dig up voting papers and trials would only take a few hours. Throw AI in there and trials would only take a few seconds
If so, it would make trials a lot easier. The lawyers could just dig up voting papers and trials would only take a few hours. Throw AI in there and trials would only take a few seconds
At the moment the threshold is 3 years in prison. I think the debate has not focused enough on the softening of sentencing over the last few years. The last government tried to control the prison population by having home detention and cutting down sentences.
There has been lots of public criticism of the courts doling out discounts and home D, for crimes that would normally be incarceration. e.g. roast busters etc.
The impact of the *soft* sentencing guidelines has been that more criminals have been able to vote as they don't meet the 3 year prison sentence threshold.
Anyway, that's just me hypothesising
Noitall
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When courts stretch name suppression, they erode public trust and accountability - Law News
Public trust in New Zealand’s institutions is falling as court-ordered suppressions, media limits, and rapid social-media leaks expose a system struggling with transparency. Without open justice, Kiwis can’t hold authorities accountable or understand risks within their communities.
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It might make people feel warm and fuzzy to know that criminals aren’t getting what each of us get in a vote, but there are just as many people out in society that you’d hold the same standard to but either have the money to avoid consequences or simply haven’t been caught. Name suppression has created a world where cases are easily swept away because there isn’t any exposure of it and justice isn’t served with the offender having the means and knowledge of the system. In prison are generally criminals, but also plenty with severe mental illness issues that the system has let them down
This government is utterly corrupt
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Associate transport minister bars Holcim from using foreign-flagged ship for transport
Holcim says local jobs will suffer if it cannot transport its product around New Zealand on a Swiss ship.
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This is an example of someone that falls into the group that will no longer be able to vote, if the govt enacts its prisoner voting ban.
Under existing legislation, he would be allowed to vote
Have a read of the victim impact statements if you are on the fence
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Under existing legislation, he would be allowed to vote
Have a read of the victim impact statements if you are on the fence
'He had enormous power': Ex-Gloriavale leader appeals jail sentence over sex abuse against girls, women
Howard Temple, 85, admitted offending over 20-plus years.
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I’m confused…. reading through here, most pedos are right wing, Christians. Most white collar crime would most likely be voting right.
The right wing parties don’t want people in jail with long sentences to be able to vote.
So, the right wing parties are sabotaging their own votes.
The right wing parties don’t want people in jail with long sentences to be able to vote.
So, the right wing parties are sabotaging their own votes.
Noitall
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I would imagine the sentence he’s looking at would be greater than 3 years so would never have qualified either way. These are the worst because of the trust people have towards themThis is an example of someone that falls into the group that will no longer be able to vote, if the govt enacts its prisoner voting ban.
Under existing legislation, he would be allowed to vote
Have a read of the victim impact statements if you are on the fence
'He had enormous power': Ex-Gloriavale leader appeals jail sentence over sex abuse against girls, women
Howard Temple, 85, admitted offending over 20-plus years.
Noitall
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Where’s that old neighbour Mike? He’ll point you in the right direction
He was sentenced to 26 months!!! So his right to vote in prison is currently being vigorously defended by TPM, Labour and the Greens
I'm of the view that he kissed those rights away when he started offending against children under his care
As a side note, I agree with your earlier points regarding name suppression etc
Noitall
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I didn’t read it properly obviously, but 26 months for his offending is pitiful. Deserves a hell of a lot more than that and the loss of voting privileges
