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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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What none of us knew (because we weren't told) was that the chinese lung rot wasn't that dangerous unless you were elderly or had comorbidities. We should have looked after and/or isolated those people which wouldn't have been too hard.
The vaccine fix was a fraud, in effect it wasn't actually a vaccine at all. Just a jab to alleviate the symptoms of the flu. Bit like a Panadol. Didn't stop you getting it (like a real vaccine would) and didn't stop anyone passing it on. Another lie. Get the jab, lift the rate to over 90% and then we can all go about our normal business. Another lie. Nek Minute, Dorkland locked down for 3 months.
What a load of shit
 
If you are upset about the precariousness of NZs financial situation, and the lack of infrastructure, ferries, hospitals and the like, have a read of the graph below, published today on nzherald

I can’t imagine what sort of angle you have to look at it and be satisfied that Grant and Cindy didn’t screw over NZ
We should be more Scandinavian the left cry out. Lol.

The scandos are also very pragmatic.
 
So Labour had no interest in discussing the curriculum changes. Muppets.
I must admit, when the NCEA changes came out, I did wonder why Labour wasn't out in force pushing back, for Opposition's sake.

I assume it was because they thought the changes were a good idea.

Nope - they didn't agree with the changes. They just didn't care.

One MP that has grown in my estimation has been Stanford. Seeing the respectful way she reached out for Labour's collaboration was good to see
 
I must admit, when the NCEA changes came out, I did wonder why Labour wasn't out in force pushing back, for Opposition's sake.

I assume it was because they thought the changes were a good idea.

Nope - they didn't agree with the changes. They just didn't care.

One MP that has grown in my estimation has been Stanford. Seeing the respectful way she reached out for Labour's collaboration was good to see
Labour - of the slackers by the slackers for the slackers
 
You are missing the point my friend but understandable with an IQ of less than 32 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Does the intellectual property lawyer have an IQ of less than 32 too?

or does the boomer spouting Anti Vax dribble in retrospect while laughing at a woman having her rights & images trampled on by a pretty vile organisation, running misleading propaganda have the IQ less than 32.

Self reflection might help gramps.

Is it legal?

According to intellectual property lawyer Earl Gray, Hobson’s Pledge is “pretty clearly” in breach of the Fair Trading Act. “This is clearly advertising,” he told The Spinoff, in reference to the “editorial only” clause. He pointed out that iStock’s terms specify that editorial-use-only images are “not model or property released”, meaning Hobson’s Pledge could not use the image in a way “that suggests that the model has endorsed anything they’re saying”.

“In this case, Ellen Tamati has clearly not said what they’re saying. They’re clearly in breach of the iStock terms and and because of that, they’re also, I think, pretty clearly in breach of the Fair Trading Act,” said Gray.

Liability could even extend to the billboard company, Lumo, for hosting the ad: “They’ve put it up so they’ve potentially made the reproduction, or published the reproduction. If you’re outside of any licence and you use a copyright work, then you’re potentially infringing copyright.”
 
Does the intellectual property lawyer have an IQ of less than 32 too?

or does the boomer spouting Anti Vax dribble in retrospect while laughing at a woman having her rights & images trampled on by a pretty vile organisation, running misleading propaganda have the IQ less than 32.

Self reflection might help gramps.
I'll keep posting kid, if you keep reading 😂
 

Ryan Bridge: The Treasury's told us what we knew all along​


The $66 billion question hanging over Labour's head has been answered.

This new Treasury report tells us what we all already knew about Labour's Covid response: they went too far. Spent like a drunken sailor. Made it rain dollar bills.

When Treasury advised them to pull back, they didn't, they kept going.

Covid was the most expensive economic hit to this country. The government spent $66 billion - which is 20% of our GDP. Of that, just 18% was spent on specific pandemic healthcare costs.

Then they just kept spending.

Forget the Nigerian prince, this is the biggest scam to hit Kiwi shores.

They also spent the Covid fund on things like school lunches and art therapy programmes.

The report tip toes around it, but the clear inference of this report is Labour went too far pulling the fiscal leaver. The Reserve Bank should be using monetary policy to bulk of the heaving lifting in future events.

At the same time this report landed on Labour's lap like a tonne of bricks, Chris Hipkins was in Queenstown chatting about the policies they don't have but will probably have going into the election.

Guess what's on the menu? A capital gains tax. More government spending. And talk that the Treasury-imposed safe debt cap could be increased.

So debt, tax, and spend.

People may not like Luxon's delivery of this message, it grates, but you can't hide from the fact those guys screwed the pooch.

And the pooch, if they were to get back into power, best be preparing for more screwing.
 

Ryan Bridge: The Treasury's told us what we knew all along​


The $66 billion question hanging over Labour's head has been answered.

This new Treasury report tells us what we all already knew about Labour's Covid response: they went too far. Spent like a drunken sailor. Made it rain dollar bills.

When Treasury advised them to pull back, they didn't, they kept going.

Covid was the most expensive economic hit to this country. The government spent $66 billion - which is 20% of our GDP. Of that, just 18% was spent on specific pandemic healthcare costs.

Then they just kept spending.
$54b was spent on non-pandemic heathcare costs. To put that into perspective in terms of projects that could have been done
  • $3b new ferries
  • $3b shiny Dunedin hospital
  • $3b waterfront stadium
  • $35b second harbour crossing (this one's a bit wasteful)
  • $10b leftover for water infrastructure improvements
 
$54b was spent on non-pandemic heathcare costs. To put that into perspective in terms of projects that could have been done
  • $3b new ferries
  • $3b shiny Dunedin hospital
  • $3b waterfront stadium
  • $35b second harbour crossing (this one's a bit wasteful)
  • $10b leftover for water infrastructure improvements
I guess you have to agree we are in a manufactured recession. Unfortunately its manufactured from wasteful overspending by the previous Government who built an economy from a house of cards on a foundation of sand. I cant understand how so many people in this country are unwilling to accept the level of incompetence from GR, Ardern and Chippy during this period. As you say, if we had used that money wisely on infrastructure improvements we would be in a much better place. Imagine how bad it would have been if they had got in for this current term.
 
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