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[MaybeTop8]

Oh and wiz? You keep whinging about productivity - in Simon Wilson's latest article he rightly points out low productivity is a result of consistent investment in property and nothing else. Not to mention a few other clear home truths as reported on by the IMF.

Simon Wilson: Chlöe Swarbrick and the lost lessons of Monopoly

Opinion: Why do we find it so hard to take Green economic planning seriously?

www.nzherald.co.nz

Chloe Swarbrick is a hell of a lot smarter than those wishing to run her down on these forums.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Oh and wiz? You keep whinging about productivity - in Simon Wilson's latest article he rightly points out low productivity is a result of consistent investment in property and nothing else. Not to mention a few other clear home truths as reported on by the IMF.

Simon Wilson: Chlöe Swarbrick and the lost lessons of Monopoly

Opinion: Why do we find it so hard to take Green economic planning seriously?

www.nzherald.co.nz

Chloe Swarbrick is a hell of a lot smarter than those wishing to run her down on these forums.

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I agree, productivity is growing the pie not fighting over a share. Said it many times. So we need really business friendly policy, not anti private/ corporate.

Glad you now understand.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Oh and wiz? You keep whinging about productivity - in Simon Wilson's latest article he rightly points out low productivity is a result of consistent investment in property and nothing else. Not to mention a few other clear home truths as reported on by the IMF.

Simon Wilson: Chlöe Swarbrick and the lost lessons of Monopoly

Opinion: Why do we find it so hard to take Green economic planning seriously?

www.nzherald.co.nz

Chloe Swarbrick is a hell of a lot smarter than those wishing to run her down on these forums.

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The ironic thing is the economics of the left is to increase Labour costs so much if forces business to invest in productivity (machinery/ technology, etc) to replace labour. The labour will retrain to higher paying jobs. I actually agree with this.

The problem is if you do it to fast without time to adjust it’s a business killer. And the labour can’t retrain.

This was Labour last term where they ramped up minimum wage, sick leave, extra public holiday, pro labour laws, etc plus shut down immigration. Way to much to fast that smashed employers who were already under post covid pressure but the idea is right.

Unfortunately it was all too much, too fast, while businesses were broke from covid and we had the huge labour shortage with businesses literally closing down and inflation ramping up to try to counter the issue. People couldn’t and wouldn’t retrain and universities and polytechs actually lost enrolments

It needs to be a long slow process.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Oh and wiz? You keep whinging about productivity - in Simon Wilson's latest article he rightly points out low productivity is a result of consistent investment in property and nothing else. Not to mention a few other clear home truths as reported on by the IMF.

Simon Wilson: Chlöe Swarbrick and the lost lessons of Monopoly

Opinion: Why do we find it so hard to take Green economic planning seriously?

www.nzherald.co.nz

Chloe Swarbrick is a hell of a lot smarter than those wishing to run her down on these forums.

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Unfortunately for Chloe, she was a senior leader while the country fell apart last term.

Worst recession in 30 years, huge inflation, record borrowing, etc. she has no record to stand on, has no business experience or economic qualifications.

Good on you for being infatuated with her ideology but there are no successful far left countries in the world.

Ps I’ve been the treasurer on a school BoT and it didn’t make a loss so I have more experience and success than her just based on that

 

[MaybeTop8]

Unfortunately for Chloe, she was a senior leader while the country fell apart last term.

Worst recession in 30 years, huge inflation, record borrowing, etc. she has no record to stand on, has no business experience or economic qualifications.

Good on you for being infatuated with her ideology but there are no successful far left countries in the world.

Ps I’ve been the treasurer on a school BoT and it didn’t make a loss so I have more experience and success than her just based on that

With your creative accounting I'm surprised you weren't arrested.

It's amazing how actually looking out for the common good and our community is seen as far left by those on the far right.

Quite sad really., and shows no inclination of reality, just ignorance

 

[marv.]

i didn’t take a video of my television and living room for fear of reigniting the envy i mean wealth tax arguement (kidding!)

but did anyone see LUXXXDAWG talking super slow and in a kinda old white guy chinese accent to the lady in shanghai on 3news???


HOW OLD WOULD THIS BE?

old white guys love it! such a classic move.
what a gronk.

 

[defensivebomb]

Do you numbskulls in this thread - who were saying Chloe has never had a real job so couldn't be taken seriously - think Seymour who has never had a job - conceived & drafted this on his own? Naive

Take it you are referring to me here. I haven’t commented on Seymour’s bill and I don’t even have an opinion of it. I’m not involved with this particular debate

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Keep giving the wiz forum handjobs tho. Cute

Have to balance out you strumming your snatch every mention of Swarbrick.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Have to balance out you strumming your snatch every mention of Swarbrick.

Climate change is real frank. You can do it. Come and join in with facts and science instead of your poisonous little world

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

With your creative accounting I'm surprised you weren't arrested.

Invest in good accountants mate

It's amazing how actually looking out for the common good and our community is seen as far left by those on the far right.

In an emergency they say you should look out for yourself before you help others so you can look out for others. A focus on Individual responsibility sets the platform to better outcomes for the common good and community. We both want the same thing bits that’s Where we ideologically differ.

 

[Bay39er]

i didn’t take a video of my television and living room for fear of reigniting the envy i mean wealth tax arguement (kidding!)

but did anyone see LUXXXDAWG talking super slow and in a kinda old white guy chinese accent to the lady in shanghai on 3news???

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HOW OLD WOULD THIS BE?

old white guys love it! such a classic move.
what a gronk.

I did but I thought I had misheard so I rewound the clip to listen again and sure enough.

What an egg

 

[Worried2Death]

If the book didn't make all you far right voters seethe hard enough, wait'll you get a load of the movie!

Why 'Prime Minister' is a must-watch for political enthusiasts

OPINION: Film based on Jacinda Ardern's time as PM is an intimate political documentary.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

If the book didn't make all you far right voters seethe hard enough, wait'll you get a load of the movie!

Why 'Prime Minister' is a must-watch for political enthusiasts

OPINION: Film based on Jacinda Ardern's time as PM is an intimate political documentary.

www.nzherald.co.nz

I’ll bite for the fun of conversation:

So hubby Clarke was cameraman and producer as they sell their private home videos.

Clarke was filming their bedroom conversations at night when they discussed their day… what a weird relationship

Being a poster child for poverty while secretly making videos to monetise her position speaks for itself really!

 

[MaybeTop8]

 

[MaybeTop8]

EP 54 - Hon Marama Davidson, Greens Co-Leader on the Dangers of The Regulatory Standards Bill.

20/6/2025

bryanbruce.substack.com

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

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More crackpot conspiracy theories from the left. You guys are so funny

I gave you a chance to debate the pros and cons of the bill yesterday and you couldn’t… so back to your misinformation campaigns against the man.

PLAY THE POLICY!L NOT ThE MAN!

 

[MaybeTop8]

More crackpot conspiracy theories from the left. You guys are so funny

I gave you a chance to debate the pros and cons of the bill yesterday and you couldn’t… so back to your misinformation campaigns against the man.

PLAY THE POLICY!L NOT ThE MAN!

Wiz. I honestly don't have time in my life to school right wingnuts like yourself who don't listen, don't care and don't want to learn. As juju said, plenty of far more intelligent people than ourselves have outlined very clearly what is wrong with the bill.

You've continually called me a conspiracy theorist with all your usual bluster, usual no proof, yet you continue to make shit up, which is in effect lying.

The real conspiracy is right in front of you and it's happening, it's being executed very cleverly and mostly from the right.

You can find it out for yourself. It's all there. It's all fact.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Wiz. I honestly don't have time in my life to school right wingnuts like yourself who don't listen, don't care and don't want to learn. As juju said, plenty of far more intelligent people than ourselves have outlined very clearly what is wrong with the bill.

You've continually called me a conspiracy theorist with all your usual bluster, usual no proof, yet you continue to make shit up, which is in effect lying.

The real conspiracy is right in front of you and it's happening, it's being executed very cleverly and mostly from the right.

You can find it out for yourself. It's all there. It's all fact.

Ohhh…. Political parties are funded but lots of people. 1+1=3. News flash, all parties are influenced by the world around them, including looking overseas to best practice

I posted the bills principles and I have stated I can’t see anything wrong with them. I challenged you to outline which principles you have an issue with. They all seem very reasonable and progressive.

You say people more intelligent than you are telling you what to think… fair enough.

 

[defensivebomb]

Sometimes: “This person is more intelligent than you. Trust what they are saying”

Other times: “This person has been bought. Don’t trust what they are saying”

Which voice to pick? The convenient one

 

[MaybeTop8]

Ohhh…. Political parties are funded but lots of people. 1+1=3. News flash, all parties are influenced by the world around them, including looking overseas to best practice

I posted the bills principles and I have stated I can’t see anything wrong with them. I challenged you to outline which principles you have an issue with. They all seem very reasonable and progressive.

You say people more intelligent than you are telling you what to think… fair enough.

As juju said you're regurgitating ACT propaganda sprinkled with your own bullshit