Although....
You could get 7x one day part time jobs and then get 10 weeks of sick leave concurrently; 2 1/2 months of full time pay for free. Thats the loophole I think
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You could get 7x one day part time jobs and then get 10 weeks of sick leave concurrently; 2 1/2 months of full time pay for free. Thats the loophole I think
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Yeah that loophole needs fixing then
Hey hey hey. Lets not rush things. Ive got a few phone calls to make back to NZ
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You finally got it
We're dirty NSW cockroaches, no wonder we're struggling with basic maths.You finally got it
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Nothing article, complaining for the sake of complaining with insulting personal attacks showing the writers bias and not giving us anything to fear. Real low quality writing.Let's not pretend act are here for new Zealand. They're not. It's all about wealth extraction. Always was, Always will be
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Why do the left hate the regulatory bill again??? From the proposal for the ECE regulations it’s all sensible stuff that will save time allowing teachers and management to focus on the children - where it should be, not filling out irrelevant forms to box tick.
How does it allow wealth extraction? If it reduces cost, unless it’s a monopoly, competition ensures the lower costs are passed on to consumers and WE win, not the corporations. Sort of important in a high cost country where we can’t afford to be first world and people are struggling in poverty.
To me this is about working smarter and more efficiently as much as saving costs anyway.
Of course you're happy, this bill is your echo chamber. Are you happy for corporations to sue nz over anything they see as a hindrance to their profits? Hindrances like human rights, fair pay, climate impact, ecological impact, the treaty, health and safety, peoples lives and livelihoods?
Of course you are.
This bill will ruin new Zealand. It's greedy neoliberalism. Of the rich by the rich for the rich and everyone else gets trodden down
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Huh? Sueing NZ? This bill will hinder human rights, fair pay, climate impact, ecological impact, the treaty, health and safety? Supply evidence please, not just scare mongering.
Reasonable priced good and services will enhance the country. Allow more infrastructure, hospitals, schools and cycle ways to be built because we can afford it.
it’s things like this that’s killing NZ:
3 x the rest of the world to do anything. That KILLS people when hospitals aren’t built, to protect a few frogs and taniwha.
Focus on the people suffering, waiting for things that we can’t afford because we’re so inefficient, instead of worrying about corporations that operate in a competitive market…
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Before you post, are you happy with this and what is your solution to this that we suffered under the last Left govt.
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Auckland rail tunnel the world’s most expensive
Global study finds CRL’s 3.5km tunnel cost $1.5 billion/km. That’s 50% more than US tunnels cost, three times more than Australian tunnels & almost nine times more than in Finland, Spain & Portugal
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Read the bill. It's a neoliberal action that's failed four times, and national are finally pushing it through. It's the most destructive threatening legislation we've faced. And Seymour is legislating that he has final oversight.
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From the bill itself, in summary, the principles are below. Which do you have a problem with? Seems very sensible to me? Just a brief run down of the principle and how you think it will be negative so I can understand where your coming from:
- the importance of maintaining consistency with various aspects of the rule of law; and
- legislation should not unduly diminish a person's liberty, personal security, freedom of choice or action, or various property rights, except as is necessary to provide for, or protect, any such liberty, freedom, or right of another person; and
- legislation should not take or impair property without the owner's consent unless certain requirements are met. The requirements include that there is a good justification for the taking or impairment and fair compensation is provided to the owner; and
- the importance of maintaining consistency with section 22 of the Constitution Act 1986. Section 22 of that Act provides that it is not lawful for the Crown, except by or under an Act, to levy a tax, borrow money, or spend public money; and
- legislation should impose a fee for goods or services only if the amount of the fee bears a proper relation to the cost of providing the good or service; and
- legislation should impose a levy to fund an objective or a function only if the levy is reasonable in relation to:
- the costs of efficiently achieving the objective or providing the function; and
- legislation should preserve the courts' constitutional role of ascertaining the meaning of legislation; and
- legislation should make rights and liberties, or obligations, dependent on administrative power only if the power is sufficiently defined and subject to appropriate review; and
- the importance of consulting, to the extent that is reasonably practicable, the persons that the responsible agency considers will be directly and materially affected by the legislation; and
- the importance of carefully evaluating various matters as part of a good law-making process. These include:
- - the issue concerned; and
- the effectiveness of any relevant existing law; and
- the public interest; and
- any reasonably available options (including non-legislative options); and- who is likely to benefit and who is likely to suffer a detriment; and
- legislation should be expected to produce benefits that exceed the costs of the legislation to the public or persons; and
- legislation should be the most effective, efficient, and proportionate response to the issue concerned that is available.
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You know EXACTLY what their issue with the bill is Wiz
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We will see if he can articulate a logical response…You know EXACTLY what their issue with the bill is Wiz
Or if it’s just regurgitating emotive anti everything left propaganda without understanding the detail.
Easy to spew out emotive throw away lines but we need more in depth analysis of the pros and cons of policy if NZ is to catch up.
The Wiz is just regurgitating ACT party spin. Embarrassing.
Legal minds much greater than a 2nd rate theme park manager find the bill abhorrent & have articulated why in the media.
Constantly trying to one up Maybetop8 is a bit pathetic.
A few of the many points people are taking umbrage too - the bill ignores the treaty obligations completely, Rushes proper democratic consultation, Lacks clear problem definition, Promotes Idealogical bias.
Quite simple the people are against it also.
Its another clear example of Luxon letting Seymour walk all over him to the benefit of the Act Party donors.
Do you numbskulls in this thread - who were saying Chloe has never had a real job so couldn't be taken seriously - think Seymour who has never had a job - conceived & drafted this on his own? Naive
Legal minds much greater than a 2nd rate theme park manager find the bill abhorrent & have articulated why in the media.
Constantly trying to one up Maybetop8 is a bit pathetic.
A few of the many points people are taking umbrage too - the bill ignores the treaty obligations completely, Rushes proper democratic consultation, Lacks clear problem definition, Promotes Idealogical bias.
Quite simple the people are against it also.
Its another clear example of Luxon letting Seymour walk all over him to the benefit of the Act Party donors.
Do you numbskulls in this thread - who were saying Chloe has never had a real job so couldn't be taken seriously - think Seymour who has never had a job - conceived & drafted this on his own? Naive
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Like Chloe's tax policy is? Tilting at Atlas windmills
Its just simply a fact - the policys roots are with atlas and the nz initiative not the citizenship
Its intellectually weak to ignore that fact.
Keep giving the wiz forum handjobs tho. Cute
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The same article sums up neoliberalism, YOU KNOW, NEOLIBERALISM, THE DOMINANT FAR RIGHT ECONOMIC IDEOLOGICAL SYSTEM IN NEW ZEALAND FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, as well quite nicelyBefore you post, are you happy with this and what is your solution to this that we suffered under the last Left govt.
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Auckland rail tunnel the world’s most expensive
Global study finds CRL’s 3.5km tunnel cost $1.5 billion/km. That’s 50% more than US tunnels cost, three times more than Australian tunnels & almost nine times more than in Finland, Spain & Portugal
See if you can understand that within your own space, and maybe broaden your own mind a bit.
Oh and wiz? From the same article - I do agree wholeheartedly, thanks for posting.
