more detail bro, you know we love good gossip herei don’t like stan walker personally because he’s a liar and a thief.
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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.
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more detail bro, you know we love good gossip herei don’t like stan walker personally because he’s a liar and a thief.
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Music like any form of art is pretty subjective. People calling out some music you like to be rubbish in their opinion shouldn’t really be taken offensively.I bet you actually don't know very much about music, new zealand music, cultural identity & artistic expression in general.
This is the standard right wing middle age male response - almost laughably sheep like in it's thinking
That's not the point - it wasn't the music being called out it was the message of the song Bishop felt the need to bleed about...Music like any form of art is pretty subjective. People calling out some music you like to be rubbish in their opinion shouldn’t really be taken offensively.
There must be some way out of here, said the liar to the theif. Oh wait, they're both me -Stan Walkeri didn’t mean the particular song haha.
i mean pop music in its entirety.
i don’t like stan walker personally because he’s a liar and a thief.
I’m not offended at all, I agree with you, however I just for whatever reason can’t for the most part get into recent stuff. I like Passenger however he’s in that folk niche like a bunch of old stuff I love.That's not the point - it wasn't the music being called out it was the message of the song Bishop felt the need to bleed about...
As for the sentiment of politics and music shouldn't mix - it has literally for the whole existence of pop music.
Tell that to Sam Cooke, Billie Holliday, Public Enemy, Herbs, James Brown, Bob Dylan, CCR, Neil Young etc etc.
I don't own or listen to Stan Walkers music though can appreciate that song and that performance.
Maybe don't be offended when I say it's pretty sad to lose the curiosity of music discover with REM and Pearl Jam - that's over 30 years of human experience & expression to miss out on.
That was a misunderstanding, Simon thought he was laughing at him, Dylan was stoned and laughing at something Albert Grossman said. That's the story I read.Bob Dylan obnoxiously laughed the entire way through the first performance of Simon & Garfunkel he ever attended.
Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel couldn’t stand each otherThat was a misunderstanding, Simon thought he was laughing at him, Dylan was stoned and laughing at something Albert Grossman said. That's the story I read.
Bob and Paul toured together as a double act in the 2000s, Paul said Bob sang better than Garfunkel. Or maybe Bob said that.
They were like Frank and Top8 if they were a folk duo, made great music together though.Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel couldn’t stand each other
More like mcglashan and bishopThey were like Frank and Top8 if they were a folk duo, made great music together though.
More a fan of their solo work. Garfunkel probably jealous because Paul Simon married Princess LeiaThey were like Frank and Top8 if they were a folk duo, made great music together though.
Don't blame him, I've often dreamed of Garfunkeling Pincess Leia.More a fan of their solo work. Garfunkel probably jealous because Paul Simon married Princess Leia
Feels right that the politics and the music threads have combined after marv’s point about music being politicalWho could blame him, I've often dreamed about Garfunkeling her myself.
Everything feels right again now we have +5 differential, or do I mean left, or are they both neoliberal. Anyway up the wahs and let's gone, whatever that means.Feels right that the politics and the music threads have combined after marv’s point about music being political
There Are No Drunk Dickhead Politicians In NZ -Don McGlashan ft. Chris BishopMore like mcglashan and bishop
How embarrassing for McGlashan to be the rocker and have to tell a politician to pull his head inThere Are No Drunk Dickhead Politicians In NZ -Don McGlashan ft. Chris Bishop
He's lucky Jordan Luck or Scribe didn't get hold of him, they wouldn't have been as polite. Lorde would have killed him and drunk his blood.How embarrassing for McGlashan to be the rocker and have to tell a politician to pull his head in