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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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I'll run that question by my wife, sometimes she can look at things rationally and logically. More likely to get 20 fucken whacks though.
Yeah, it's not as clear cut as 'men get paid more than women' IMO. I can't get on board with there being a clear gender pay gap when it comes to same job, same output. There may still be a case for some women being discriminated against for certain roles, maybe. If anything it's probably skewed further the other way with DEI hires.
 

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Yeah, it's not as clear cut as 'men get paid more than women' IMO. I can't get on board with there being a clear gender pay gap when it comes to same job, same output. There may still be a case for some women being discriminated against for certain roles, maybe. If anything it's probably skewed further the other way with DEI hires.
Like all things we dress up the true data in pleasantries. Men work longer hours, more difficult jobs, take less leave, do more overtime and unpaid career hours and stay with an employer longer. No surprise there.

But the kicker is the reason is all one in the same. Women have children and raise families. Which is fucking amazing and yet somehow demonised
 
Woman are coming out of university in greater numbers than men.

What goes wrong?

Or perhaps in the not to distant future, woman will be the higher earning sex and we will have to start demanding equity?
 
Woman are coming out of university in greater numbers than men.

What goes wrong?

Or perhaps in the not to distant future, woman will be the higher earning sex and we will have to start demanding equity?
Wow that wouldn't happen to coincide with the massive amount of dogshit degrees unis offer would it? Surely we'd see that reflected in things like STEM right?
 
With the budget coming up and the left wanting higher debt levels and promoting NZ govts relatively low debt levels:

New Zealand does have a relatively low level of government debt to GDP compared to other developed nations, many of which could be described as more economically successful.

It is important to acknowledge that New Zealand has a broader problem with private debt that makes it harder to run a very large Crown debt.

According to Reserve Bank and Treasury figures, in the year to May 31, 2024, New Zealand hit a total of $827 billion in debt.

That includes all private and public debt and it is about 200% of GDP.

About $316b of that is mortgage debt, which we mostly owe to Australian banks.

The interest we pay on that drains out of the country in bank profits and helps keep our current account in deficit.

International credit rating agencies technically focus on Crown debt when they decide on a nation’s lending risk.

But they also assess our ability to keep paying the debt.

So issues like our level of private debt and the size of our current account deficit are relevant and curb the ability of our Government to borrow as much as it might otherwise.

One reason that some countries, like Japan, can get away with such high levels of Crown debt is that they own a lot of it internally.

In other words, the Japanese citizens have very high levels of savings, which offset the debt, and much of those savings is actually held in Japanese government bonds.

 
See the banks are complaining that they have to finished paying back the last $9.6 billion of the COVID money they received soon.

Really? They've had to pay OCR rate at the time they borrowed it in 2020 and 2021 (which was between 0.25% and 0.75% depending on when they borrowed it) but lent it out at 3% for the Small Business Extension Loans, 4.5%-5.0% for two year mortgages and between 10%-15% for standard business loans. Sorry, but I'm not shedding a tear for them with the excessive profits they made over that period.... especially when they knew that the loans from the RBNZ were only for three years.

 
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