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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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I was hoping we hadn't been noticed by too many people but I think you are right.
Watched a podcast/interview in front of a live audience the other day. Started by asking Richard Dawkins about his māori view on science. It was embarrassing hearing him tell the story of Scientists here being shut down by their Universities and him unwelcome to speak at same Universities because he supported our proper scientists questioning of adopting māori folklore as part of our tertiary science curriculum.
Got a link to that Dawkins interview bro?
 
This: https://centrist.nz/whale-songs-to-trees-controversial-matauranga-maori-project-raises-eyebrows/


points to this: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024...zealand/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

An American blog written by an individual who seems to lean on the right.

He links to this: https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/res...ri is a knowledge,as such should be protected.

I couldn't find mention of $4m on whale song played to kauri, but I gave up.

This: https://centrist.nz/about-us/ has nothing about who makes up this site. Very anonymous.
 
I was hoping we hadn't been noticed by too many people but I think you are right.
Watched a podcast/interview in front of a live audience the other day. Started by asking Richard Dawkins about his māori view on science. It was embarrassing hearing him tell the story of Scientists here being shut down by their Universities and him unwelcome to speak at same Universities because he supported our proper scientists questioning of adopting māori folklore as part of our tertiary science curriculum.
Happening in Australia too. The myth of the noble savage is being deconstructed.
 
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It's good you have finally realized this but I doubt it will stop you posting it.
You're on a roll!!! I get it. You don't like what I post. Or what I represent, or me probably, but that's all okay.

But it's all happening inruin. Right in front of your eyes.

It's not about what's right or left, it's about right or wrong, it's about decency, honesty, facts and equity, for me at least.

Your choices are your choices of course.
 
You're on a roll!!! I get it. You don't like what I post. Or what I represent, or me probably, but that's all okay.

But it's all happening inruin. Right in front of your eyes.

It's not about what's right or left, it's about right or wrong, it's about decency, honesty, facts and equity, for me at least.

Your choices are your choices of course.
I don't have thoughts either way on you personally. I do take issue with what you post a lot of the time because of the disinformation and/or what you claim as fact. You just posted it's not about right or left but everything you post makes it so. There are many posters on here where you can have a rational discussion about a topic, I haven't found you to be one of them.

If it's all happening, there right in front of our eyes there should be zero need to post in the manner you do. But you do. Like you say, your choices are your choices. That doesn't make them right or that you won't or shouldn't be called out on them.

Decency, honesty, facts and equity. I look forward to seeing it from you.

I actually worry about you. Your style of posting I find to be very propagandist and often picking out tenuous links to try and support your almost fanatical views. Anyone posting in that style and manner from either end of the political spectrum concerns me. The irony is that these types of posters often miss the fact that the claims they make often apply to the other side as well and will resort to either name calling, falling back on the same mantra repeated again and again, and shooting the messenger rather than looking and discussing at the message.
 
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Many thanks TAJHAY - bloody predictive text. Wiz, the articles you quote - true disinformation
Hey you wanted ‘anything’ that says there was funding, I did a quick Google search and posted a couple of articles showing the funding was there.

Don’t care enough to check further detail… 😉

Instead of attacking the source, tell me what’s disinformation in the content…
 
I don't have thoughts either way on you personally. I do take issue with what you post a lot of the time because of the disinformation and/or what you claim as fact. You just posted it's not about right or left but everything you post makes it so. There are many posters on here where you can have a rational discussion about a topic, I haven't found you to be one of them.

If it's all happening, there right in front of our eyes there should be zero need to post in the manner you do. But you do. Like you say, your choices are your choices. That doesn't make them right or that you won't or shouldn't be called out on them.

Decency, honesty, facts and equity. I look forward to seeing it from you.
And yet, and yet, you know deep down what I post is fact. Come on. You can do it.

The level of cognitive dissonance is kinda odd.

For example, another hard right idealogue with extreme views and policy - Simeon Brown



Further extreme hard right views applied to our health system.

Maybe a dead cat bounce move from a party that is completely fucking us over and destroying nz and it's democracy at the behest of their masters

 
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