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[Damo]

That Kauri tree thing sounds silly, but I can't seem to find anything about in the "who got funded" spreadsheet at the National Science Challenges website. They are the ones who apparently funded this project

 

[MaybeTop8]

Hey you wanted ‘anything’ that says there was funding, I did a quick Google search and posted a couple of articles showing the funding was there.

Don’t care enough to check further detail…

Instead of attacking the source, tell me what’s disinformation in the content…

Chantalle Baker? The entire organisations behind these sites? The fact that it's all made up myths?

 

[MaybeTop8]

And yet, and yet, you know deep down what I post is fact. Come on. You can do it.

The level of cognitive dissonance is kinda odd.

For example, another hard right idealogue with extreme views and policy - Simeon Brown

Can we have a normal Minister of Transport now? - Greater Auckland

Yesterday,

www.greaterauckland.org.nz

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Further extreme hard right views applied to our health system.

Maybe a dead cat bounce move from a party that is completely fucking us over and destroying nz and it's democracy at the behest of their masters

NZ now frozen, listless, mean & hopeless

Parents of disabled kids stuck in defunded & desperate limbo; Hospitals & councils dispirited & face fresh turmoil under new ministers; 42% of professionals want to migrate to Australia in 2025

thekaka.substack.com

I can't help it if the right and extreme right are destroying democracies the world over for the benefit of the extreme wealthy and powerful interests.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Chantalle Baker? The entire organisations behind these sites? The fact that it's all made up myths?

Content bro… nah don’t worry, you are so one eyed you argue against university academic research

 

[MaybeTop8]

I don't have thoughts either way on you personally. I do take issue with what you post a lot of the time because of the disinformation and/or what you claim as fact. You just posted it's not about right or left but everything you post makes it so. There are many posters on here where you can have a rational discussion about a topic, I haven't found you to be one of them.

If it's all happening, there right in front of our eyes there should be zero need to post in the manner you do. But you do. Like you say, your choices are your choices. That doesn't make them right or that you won't or shouldn't be called out on them.

Decency, honesty, facts and equity. I look forward to seeing it from you.

I actually worry about you. Your style of posting I find to be very propagandist and often picking out tenuous links to try and support your almost fanatical views. Anyone posting in that style and manner from either end of the political spectrum concerns me. The irony is that these types of posters often miss the fact that the claims they make often apply to the other side as well and will resort to either name calling, falling back on the same mantra repeated again and again, and shooting the messenger rather than looking and discussing at the message.

Some examples of fanatical views?

I'm a fan of the warriors. Of a shite premiere league team. Of the nz mens cricket team.

 

[Inruin]

And yet, and yet, you know deep down what I post is fact. Come on. You can do it.

The level of cognitive dissonance is kinda odd.

For example, another hard right idealogue with extreme views and policy - Simeon Brown

Can we have a normal Minister of Transport now? - Greater Auckland

Yesterday,

www.greaterauckland.org.nz

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Further extreme hard right views applied to our health system.

Maybe a dead cat bounce move from a party that is completely fucking us over and destroying nz and it's democracy at the behest of their masters

NZ now frozen, listless, mean & hopeless

Parents of disabled kids stuck in defunded & desperate limbo; Hospitals & councils dispirited & face fresh turmoil under new ministers; 42% of professionals want to migrate to Australia in 2025

thekaka.substack.com

No, what you post is an extension of what you think. More often than not you post a statement with a link that contains a tenuous sentence or headline that may look like it supports your view. But, as has been pointed out numerous times, a lot of what you post as a link you either haven't read or haven't understood because it actually contradicts your point.

Like I say, if it's happening right in front of our eyes it should be very easy to provide an example, but you don't and can't. You may very well at some point be right on something. But currently everything you post appears propagandist to me.

 

[Worried2Death]

Some examples of fanatical views?

I'm a fan of the warriors.

You and Iruin should get member seats next to each other at games, talk it all out and find the middle ground, if there is one. If not, you're stuck next to him.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Some examples of fanatical views?

I can't help it if the right and extreme right are destroying democracies the world over for the benefit of the extreme wealthy and powerful interests.

 

[Inruin]

That Kauri tree thing sounds silly, but I can't seem to find anything about in the "who got funded" spreadsheet at the National Science Challenges website. They are the ones who apparently funded this project

I did find something from about five years ago where whale bone and whale oil had been mixed together and applied with a karakia. I can't see anything, other than that original article, on whale noises or funding. There very well maybe a link between the whale oil/bone and a cure for the dieback. It wouldn't or shouldn't be hard to scientifically verify it and the key elements that work, so it can be replicated without having to kill a few whales.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

You and Iruin should get member seats next to each other at games, talk it all out and find the middle ground, if there is one. If not, you're stuck next to him.

"I'm a Libertarian get me out of here"

I'm sure there is middle ground....somewhere.....

If we did that we'd probably choose a season that contained us playing Melbourne twice and ended up worse than 2004

 

[Inruin]

You and Iruin should get member seats next to each other at games, talk it all out and find the middle ground, if there is one. If not, you're stuck next to him.

Nice idea but he would always be late to games from always taking left turns because he couldn't bring himself to go right.

In all seriousness, if him and I were at a Warriors game sitting next to each other we would most likely get on fine.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Nice idea but he would always be late to games from always taking left turns because he couldn't bring himself to go right.

In all seriousness, if him and I were at a Warriors game sitting next to each other we would most likely get on fine.

yeah I reckon too

 

[Damo]

I did find something from about five years ago where whale bone and whale oil had been mixed together and applied with a karakia. I can't see anything, other than that original article, on whale noises or funding. There very well maybe a link between the whale oil/bone and a cure for the dieback. It wouldn't or shouldn't be hard to scientifically verify it and the key elements that work, so it can be replicated without having to kill a few whales.

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Tough to verify, but can't see anywhere confirming $4 million dollars. Could be the case
Probably need to get some sources there @dean

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Oranga – Wellbeing – Biological Heritage NZ

bioheritage.nz

I posted but seems to have been ignored in favour of attacking other sources (diversion?)

Information about the national science challenges:

Research Area Summary​

‘Māori whakapapa describes how the kauri and tohorā (sperm whale) are brothers. In this research area we looked at how this connection could possibly help save the kauri from kauri dieback disease.‘

‘delve into the realm of ‘ihirangaranga’—vibrations and frequencies—as healing sounds, to construct a sonic tapestry of rejuvenation and well-being.’

‘intricately woven with sonic samples of healthy kauri within its untouched habitat, the whale song of its cetacean kin the tohora’

 

[MrFrankWhite]

And yet, and yet, you know deep down what I post is fact. Come on. You can do it.

The level of cognitive dissonance is kinda odd.

For example, another hard right idealogue with extreme views and policy - Simeon Brown

Can we have a normal Minister of Transport now? - Greater Auckland

Yesterday,

www.greaterauckland.org.nz

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Further extreme hard right views applied to our health system.

Maybe a dead cat bounce move from a party that is completely fucking us over and destroying nz and it's democracy at the behest of their masters

NZ now frozen, listless, mean & hopeless

Parents of disabled kids stuck in defunded & desperate limbo; Hospitals & councils dispirited & face fresh turmoil under new ministers; 42% of professionals want to migrate to Australia in 2025

thekaka.substack.com

wow NZ becoming a shithole to live, what an amazingly recent development. One that's entirely someone else's fault and not kiwis, whose govt is entirely representative

 

[Damo]

I posted but seems to have been ignored in favour of attacking other sources (diversion?)

Information about the national science challenges:

Research Area Summary​

‘Māori whakapapa describes how the kauri and tohorā (sperm whale) are brothers. In this research area we looked at how this connection could possibly help save the kauri from kauri dieback disease.‘

‘delve into the realm of ‘ihirangaranga’—vibrations and frequencies—as healing sounds, to construct a sonic tapestry of rejuvenation and well-being.’

‘intricately woven with sonic samples of healthy kauri within its untouched habitat, the whale song of its cetacean kin the tohora

No, I read yours. But I couldn't find it on the websites funding to confirm a dollar amount in their very extensive spreadsheet where they have everything that was funded. As I said it very well may be the case.

 

[Worried2Death]

I posted but seems to have been ignored in favour of attacking other sources (diversion?)

Information about the national science challenges:

Research Area Summary​

‘Māori whakapapa describes how the kauri and tohorā (sperm whale) are brothers. In this research area we looked at how this connection could possibly help save the kauri from kauri dieback disease.‘

‘delve into the realm of ‘ihirangaranga’—vibrations and frequencies—as healing sounds, to construct a sonic tapestry of rejuvenation and well-being.’

‘intricately woven with sonic samples of healthy kauri within its untouched habitat, the whale song of its cetacean kin the tohora’

Where are the results of this metaphysical research?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Where are the results of this metaphysical research?

Our Kauris are falling over and metaphorically beaching themselves… just like whales.

Maybe that was the aim? I don’t really know?

 

[Inruin]

Where are the results of this metaphysical research?

Oranga – Wellbeing – Biological Heritage NZ

bioheritage.nz

Oranga – Wellbeing – Biological Heritage NZ

bioheritage.nz

Obviously would be funded from somewhere.

My thoughts are that there is a real possibility of there being a link between whale bone/fat/oil and a cure for dieback. I would think that the original article claiming whale noises being a cure is an extension of the suggestion that kauri and whale are on a similar harmonic frequency or whatever. There are a number of traditional methods that had previously been dismissed and now revisited as a cure for a number of things. In this day and age we should be able to scientifically dissect these and prove them. I'm also thinking that there is also a lot we don't know in this world...

 

[Worried2Death]

Oranga – Wellbeing – Biological Heritage NZ

bioheritage.nz

Oranga – Wellbeing – Biological Heritage NZ

bioheritage.nz

Obviously would be funded from somewhere.

My thoughts are that there is a real possibility of there being a link between whale bone/fat/oil and a cure for dieback. I would think that the original article claiming whale noises being a cure is an extension of the suggestion that kauri and whale are on a similar harmonic frequency or whatever. There are a number of traditional methods that had previously been dismissed and now revisited as a cure for a number of things. In this day and age we should be able to scientifically dissect these and prove them. I'm also thinking that there is also a lot we don't know in this world...

Yes if there is some beneficial aspect that can be tested by the scientific method it could be worth finding out, can't see the results of this testing anywhere though.
The seed preservation project is a good idea.