Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Rick O’Shay]

The unofficial committee is rounded out with former MPs Jackie Blue, Jo Hayes and Belinda Vernon from National, Nanaia Mahuta, Lianne Dalziel, Steve Chadwick and Lynne Pillay from Labour, Ria Bond from New Zealand First and Sue Bradford from the Greens. All are working on a 'pro bono' - unpaid - basis.


The jokes write themselves “wHY arE wE PAId LESs?”

I know I'm old and it takes time for things to filter through but am I wrong in assuming that there are men paid more than women doing the same thing? I though that was illegal in NZ?

So, if men and women doing the same thing are paid equally where is the issue?

Is it because the public service unions have figured out a way to grift more dosh by saying a primary teacher is at the same level as an airline pilot (both have responsibility for their passengers) and once entrenched there (and costing $12b a year) it can then be unionised into the private sector?

Methinks the proletariat are being misled. Don't hear anyone from the nurses for example wanting to be compared to a Thoracic surgeon. Go figure. Just another grift. As Mark Knopfler would say, Money for nothing and the votes are free.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I know I'm old and it takes time for things to filter through but am I wrong in assuming that there are men paid more than women doing the same thing? I though that was illegal in NZ?

So, if men and women doing the same thing are paid equally where is the issue?

Is it because the public service unions have figured out a way to grift more dosh by saying a primary teacher is at the same level as an airline pilot (both have responsibility for their passengers) and once entrenched there (and costing $12b a year) it can then be unionised into the private sector?

Methinks the proletariat are being misled. Don't hear anyone from the nurses for example wanting to be compared to a Thoracic surgeon. Go figure. Just another grift. As Mark Knopfler would say, Money for nothing and the votes are free.

Same old grievances from the same old grievance peddlers.

The reason women earn less than men is perfectly encapsulated in the article. They do things like work for free and work less hours in general (as well as having babies). But this apparently is unfair, so the grievance peddlers want women's earnings to be equal to men, despite working less hours, ergo more pay for less work. Standard leftism

 

[MrFrankWhite]

All this meddling is going to do is reduce the amount of business owners willing to hire women.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Great to see the standards lifted and the slumlords driven out - https://www.oneroof.co.nz/news/cant...landlords-flood-the-market-with-rentals-47580

More like with the brightline going and now interest rates dropping (making them affordable for investors) we’re having a catch up with landlords that couldnt exit, able to do so now.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Same old grievances from the same old grievance peddlers.

The reason women earn less than men is perfectly encapsulated in the article. They do things like work for free and work less hours in general (as well as having babies). But this apparently is unfair, so the grievance peddlers want women's earnings to be equal to men, despite working less hours, ergo more pay for less work. Standard leftism

You have no idea like always. I'm sure Rick O’Shay would be interested in your dinner table too

 

[MaybeTop8]

I know I'm old and it takes time for things to filter through but am I wrong in assuming that there are men paid more than women doing the same thing? I though that was illegal in NZ?

So, if men and women doing the same thing are paid equally where is the issue?

Is it because the public service unions have figured out a way to grift more dosh by saying a primary teacher is at the same level as an airline pilot (both have responsibility for their passengers) and once entrenched there (and costing $12b a year) it can then be unionised into the private sector?

Methinks the proletariat are being misled. Don't hear anyone from the nurses for example wanting to be compared to a Thoracic surgeon. Go figure. Just another grift. As Mark Knopfler would say, Money for nothing and the votes are free.

Methinks you lot haven’t a clue from your position of privilege and ignorance.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

You have no idea like always. I'm sure Rick O’Shay would be interested in your dinner table too

Drop the stats showing women more work more hours and take less leave than men do

 

[MaybeTop8]

RNZ
www.rnz.co.nz
Pay equity claims: What they are and how they're changing

 

[MaybeTop8]

Drop the stats showing women more work more hours and take less leave than men do

Smartest guy in the bunnings

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Smartest guy in the bunnings

I bet that kills down at the WINZ office, but there's usually a couple of hundred people at any given Bunnings. Being the smartest guy there would put you in the 99th percentile...


* I probably need to explain how percentiles work now...

 

[MaybeTop8]

I bet that kills down at the WINZ office, but there's usually a couple of hundred people at any given Bunnings. Being the smartest guy there would put you in the 99th percentile...


* I probably need to explain how percentiles work now...

Oh not bunnings. My mistake. Dunning something or other. Some kind of effect

 

[Worried2Death]

Drop the stats showing women more work more hours and take less leave than men do

If they're having babies to keep the species going presumably they'll take more leave over a career, but what's the correlation with that and equitable hourly pay rates?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

RNZ
www.rnz.co.nz
Pay equity claims: What they are and how they're changing

This will be taken seriously when men get their pension before woman because they die younger / an irrefutable fact.

Men dying younger and woman having families are just as equally concerning aren’t they?

Actually dying earlier is a worse outcome - get the Greens onto it @MaybeTop8

 

[MaybeTop8]

Pay equity and equal pay

Pay equity is the same pay for different work which has the same or similar level of skill, responsibility, and effort. Equal pay is the same pay for the same work, regardless of gender.

www.women.govt.nz

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Pay equity and equal pay

Pay equity is the same pay for different work which has the same or similar level of skill, responsibility, and effort. Equal pay is the same pay for the same work, regardless of gender.

www.women.govt.nz

Define predominantly performed by woman?

Do the men in those jobs get the same pay as the woman?

 

[MaybeTop8]

Define predominantly performed by woman?

Do the men in those jobs get the same pay as the woman?

Well, given that's a government website, maybe you could ask your local mp. Or David Seymour. Or Chloe. Or anyone involved with parliament.

 

[Worried2Death]

Well, given that's a government website, maybe you could ask your local mp. Or David Seymour. Or Chloe. Or anyone involved with parliament.

I just asked the greeter at Dunnings, Freddy Kruger, he said don't ask me, I'm just a character in a terrible dad joke

 

[MrFrankWhite]

If they're having babies to keep the species going presumably they'll take more leave over a career, but what's the correlation with that and equitable hourly pay rates?

I don’t understand the question. Women get on average 8.2% less than men. Women work 8.2 percentage points less than men.

The New Zealand equitable pay dispute, encompasses both wage gap, participation rate gap and Industry specific pay rates.

The reason a librarian is paid fuck all, is it was not meant to be a career. It’s meant to be a part time job for married women and grandmothers. Because it’s a job you can do 9 months pregnant, or post partum and as a frail 80 year old women.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

I just asked the greeter at Dunnings, Freddy Kruger, he said don't ask me, I'm just a character in a terrible dad joke

Fucking up a Dunning Kruger joke is irony of the highest level

 

[Worried2Death]

I don’t understand the question. Women get on average 8.2% less than men. Women work 8.2 percentage points less than men.

The New Zealand equitable pay dispute, encompasses both wage gap, participation rate gap and Industry specific pay rates.

The reason a librarian is paid fuck all, is it was not meant to be a career. It’s meant to be a part time job for married women and grandmothers. Because it’s a job you can do 9 months pregnant, or post partum and as a frail 80 year old women.

When was it decided that's what a librarian job was meant to be, are we going back to the great library of Alexandria?