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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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The flight from wealth tax claim is debatable at best.


BTW Paedo app? I disagree with you man. Didn't take you for a conspiracy theorist.
The problem with a wealth tax is that the perception is that if it's set to low, those who are required to pay it start to feel that they are being "unfairly targeted" and, once that happens, the amount of tax avoidance/tax evasion starts to increase. In 1983, the highest tax rate was 67% and it dropped down in 1984 to 33% by the Labour Government..... yet, the amount of personal tax paid to the government increased. Why? Because more of those trying to avoid paying tax stopped "hiding" their income as they felt the tax system was fairer.

A wealth tax is designed to provide money to the government quickly while a CGT is long term in that tax is only realised when something is sold. Even if the "wealth flight" doesn't lead to wealthy people leaving the country, they will look at ways to transfer their wealth out of here or put their money into riskier investments. Why? Because if inflation was 3% and a managed fund had a 4% return, a 2% wealth tax means their wealth is reducing 1% PA while those not subject to the wealth tax a still making a slight inflation adjusted return.

I'd suggest there would be a lot of money turned into crypto currencies to be sold overseas and reinvested into assets in tax havens.

Personally, I feel sorry for FHB who will have their deposits decimated if a CGT is introduced. Most of the increase in returns on a KiwiSaver Growth fund is currently untaxed gains on the capital increases in share values as they are primarily made up of growth assets such as shares and not income assets such as interest.

In my opinion, one of the only areas the Greens have right in their alternative budget is the desire to introduce an inheritance tax (should also be in conjunction with a Gift Duty) to help reduce the transfer of intergenerational wealth.
 

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How does that make it deserved
I'd say it's deserved because it was honestly gained. Okay, "honesty" doesn't come into it if you inherited a certain level of wealth from Great Uncle Bulgaria who left you with Tree Fiddy, that's luck - as in, GUB liked you enough to leave you that Tree Fiddy largely, but, if you put up with GUB's Warriors fandom and took him him to and from games/watched games with him, it's also from hard work, misery and mental anguish, so it's deserved!

I moved into my house thanks to The Bank of Mum and Dad. The family all agree I got my inheritance early, wills are altered accordingly, spreadsheets are kept of what alternative investment M&D could have made rather than helping me (Bank deposit) so siblings are given what they deserve at the appropriate point/points.

I've made alterations to the house but don't expect them to add anything to it's value as the next owner might hate them and reverse them...
 
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