Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[Mr Drag]

I'm expecting the poor to even suffer more under National

 

[Worried2Death]

I like the deputy has a cyborg quality to her

My heart melts a bit when she smiles

 

[Canadian_Warriors_Fan]

Not that it matters whatsoever but Hipkins' partner is a woman.

 

[snake77]

Labour were a pretty poor opposition during the Key years. Before the 2017 they were in a low spot. There was a bit of an under current for change and it was an amazing turn around.

National could have been a good opposition after being in government for 9 years as they would have had experience. They then turned to a shambles.

Labour may not be the strong opposition we need with a lot of experience losing their seats and not on the list.

 

[Inruin]

Hipkins: It's a tough night and I feel sorry for those MPs not returning to Parliament.
TV3: bring out Linda the Lazer Kiwi!

 

[Mr Drag]

My heart melts a bit when she smiles

You sure that's your heart melting all over yourself!

 

[Matiunz]

That's pretty sad but Australia is a pretty racist country.

If NZ had the same vote today, yeah I agree with you.

I don't understand how people think that it's taken away something from themselves as citizens. Giving to them doesn't mean taking from you.

Humanity baffles me.

Just from the outset this isn’t my view (I stayed out of it as I don’t have a vote).
But in talking to a few Australians they see the vote isn’t as simple as the yes side make it out to be, there were concerns about the lack of clarity around the make up of the indigenous voice proposal and how it differs from what is already in place. There is a push for something that has meaningful difference as opposed to creating another layer of bureaucracy that benefits those involved while making little to no difference to everyday Indigenous.
The Yes camp I’ve spoken too are pretty much viewing it as being seen as doing the virtuous thing than actually giving 2 shits.
Wouldn’t use the word racist to describe them as it is politically and socially a VERY different situation to NZ. Obviously some horrendous stuff in the past but your everyday Aussie acknowledges that but also there is no easy fix, particularly with the historical splintered and nomadic nature of indigenous nations.

 

[marv.]

poor old chippy.

will the benefit even be enough for him to live on now that national are cutting it?!




jokes.

 

[Matiunz]

Luxon is just proof that my old dog could have won for National

Yep the cyclical nature of nz politics. One side in for 2 terms- 3 if they’re decent then the other side does the same. Rinse and repeat

 

[Evil_Mush]

I like that both of Luxon's kids are raging gingers, that gains my respect

Gingers rise, the true oppressed class (oppressed mostly by the sun)

 

[Worried2Death]

Yep the cyclical nature of nz politics. One side in for 2 terms- 3 if they’re decent then the other side does the same. Rinse and repeat

Aren't Nats and Labour both no-lib parties with slightly different approaches, can't see much major change happening with pumpkinhead and Rimmer's team of cyborgs in charge.

 

[tyrael]

Just from the outset this isn’t my view (I stayed out of it as I don’t have a vote).
But in talking to a few Australians they see the vote isn’t as simple as the yes side make it out to be, there were concerns about the lack of clarity around the make up of the indigenous voice proposal and how it differs from what is already in place. There is a push for something that has meaningful difference as opposed to creating another layer of bureaucracy that benefits those involved while making little to no difference to everyday Indigenous.
The Yes camp I’ve spoken too are pretty much viewing it as being seen as doing the virtuous thing than actually giving 2 shits.
Wouldn’t use the word racist to describe them as it is politically and socially a VERY different situation to NZ. Obviously some horrendous stuff in the past but your everyday Aussie acknowledges that but also there is no easy fix, particularly with the historical splintered and nomadic nature of indigenous nations.

It's never black and white but when will Aboriginals get any say now. Will be when I'm 90 when they get their next chance. It's like the change of flag thing, won't get another chance for a long time.

 

[Matiunz]

It's never black and white but when will Aboriginals get any say now. Will be when I'm 90 when they get their next chance. It's like the change of flag thing, won't get another chance for a long time.

There’s already a similar version in use now, think this just made it legally binding as opposed to advisory. Not sure if a chosen few stuffing their pockets greatly benefits the average everyday Indigenous Australian in its proposed format anyway.

 

[tyrael]

There’s already a similar version in use now, think this just made it legally binding as opposed to advisory. Not sure if a chosen few stuffing their pockets greatly benefits the average everyday Indigenous Australian in its proposed format anyway.

It's like, Seymour says things like it's not a Maori problem it's a poverty issue but then he doesn't/won't do anything to elevate the issue.

Those in Australia say the same thing.

 

[tyrael]

Tony or Toni?

From Spinoff

 

[snake77]

Being PM ages you. Most go grey. Luxon being bald has got that covered by not covering the part that goes grey.

 

[Shogun]

Should get rid of the list MPs and just go with the 71 who are legit that's what I think.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

My eye opening moment from last night:

Seymour and the female ACT woman flanked by 2 security guards the whole night.

There have been serious threat against ACT…

We’ve never had that in our politics in NZ. Even the DPS we’re giving the main parties leaders a lot of space!

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Being PM ages you. Most go grey. Luxon being bald has got that covered by not covering the part that goes grey.

Best comment of the thread

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Big result:

Nicola Willis lost her electorate to Greg O’Connor.

Seen as a future leader and superstar - she has failed.

No mandate to be deputy PM? Which open the door for Seymour?

Massive result!