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Dame Tariana Turia tangi live updates: Māori Party founder laid to rest at Whangaehu marae​

RNZ
7 Jan, 2025 10:51 AM3 mins to read
Kahurangi Tariana Turia. Photo / DefendNZ

Kahurangi Tariana Turia. Photo / DefendNZ
By RNZ
The founder of Te Pāti Māori, Dame Tariana Turia, is today being laid to rest at her marae at Whangaehu.
Turia died on Friday, aged 80, after earlier suffering a stroke.
Thousands have arrived in the small settlement south of Whanganui over the past four days to pay their respects.

Whānau spokesman Che Wilson said today’s proceedings would begin with karakia followed by a church service to send off the woman affectionately known among her iwi as Auntie Tari.
The nehu, or burial, is set to begin about 11am.
Wilson said the whānau were encouraging people to stay behind after the nehu for the hākari, or feast, which usually signalled the end of a tangihanga.

He said the village of Whangaehu may be small, but the entire Māori community on both sides of the Whanganui River had come together to farewell one of their own.
“You can’t be from one side of a river and not from the other side of a river, or connected to the many rivers along here, so ... as a wider rohe [region] we’re supporting each other to ensure we can do the things we need to do to honour our queen.”
Colleague and close friend Sir Bill English told Morning Report the Māori health provider movement and Whānau Ora will be Turia’s lasting legacy.
“In Whanganui, she started one of the early Māori providers ... and it was all based on a view that government services weren’t designed around people.

“She set about doing a bit more than just talking about it, she started essentially the movement of Māori health providers and Whānau Ora.”
English said Turia had a deep faith in the capacity of people to know what was best for them which allowed for progress if you gave them a little room to do it.
He also said she was quite sceptical about the structures and delivery of the welfare state.
Turia resigned from the Labour Party in 2004, before forming the Māori Party, which English said took immense courage.
The Government and Labour lined up to pay their respects to Dame Tariana Turia who died on Friday.
The Government and Labour lined up to pay their respects to Dame Tariana Turia who died on Friday.

“Willie Jackson noted this yesterday at the tangi, it takes a great deal of courage to break - particularly with a government - and form your own party because there’s so much uncertainty about whether it will work or won’t work,” he said.
“Secondly, in her case, along with Pita Sharples, who was there yesterday, she focused very much on the mana-enhancing way of doing politics.”

English said under Turia’s leadership, the Māori Party focused very much on a style of politics which he believed people would find irrelevant today because of factors like social media.
He credited Māori Party at the time for their research, constructive and well-thought-through speeches in the House, and conducting themselves with mana, which he said was very effective.


“Within a few years of leaving the Labour Party, she was part of a government, and able to conduct the Māori Party’s relationship in a government with quite a lot of tension, but always with integrity and that coalition lasted nine years and allowed her to persist with ideas like Whānau Ora and a lot of unrecognised work she did within the disability community as well.”
- RNZ

 

Dame Tariana Turia tangi live updates: Māori Party founder laid to rest at Whangaehu marae​

RNZ
7 Jan, 2025 10:51 AM3 mins to read
Kahurangi Tariana Turia. Photo / DefendNZ

Kahurangi Tariana Turia. Photo / DefendNZ
By RNZ
The founder of Te Pāti Māori, Dame Tariana Turia, is today being laid to rest at her marae at Whangaehu.
Turia died on Friday, aged 80, after earlier suffering a stroke.
Thousands have arrived in the small settlement south of Whanganui over the past four days to pay their respects.

Whānau spokesman Che Wilson said today’s proceedings would begin with karakia followed by a church service to send off the woman affectionately known among her iwi as Auntie Tari.
The nehu, or burial, is set to begin about 11am.
Wilson said the whānau were encouraging people to stay behind after the nehu for the hākari, or feast, which usually signalled the end of a tangihanga.

He said the village of Whangaehu may be small, but the entire Māori community on both sides of the Whanganui River had come together to farewell one of their own.
“You can’t be from one side of a river and not from the other side of a river, or connected to the many rivers along here, so ... as a wider rohe [region] we’re supporting each other to ensure we can do the things we need to do to honour our queen.”
Colleague and close friend Sir Bill English told Morning Report the Māori health provider movement and Whānau Ora will be Turia’s lasting legacy.
“In Whanganui, she started one of the early Māori providers ... and it was all based on a view that government services weren’t designed around people.

“She set about doing a bit more than just talking about it, she started essentially the movement of Māori health providers and Whānau Ora.”
English said Turia had a deep faith in the capacity of people to know what was best for them which allowed for progress if you gave them a little room to do it.
He also said she was quite sceptical about the structures and delivery of the welfare state.
Turia resigned from the Labour Party in 2004, before forming the Māori Party, which English said took immense courage.
The Government and Labour lined up to pay their respects to Dame Tariana Turia who died on Friday.
The Government and Labour lined up to pay their respects to Dame Tariana Turia who died on Friday.

“Willie Jackson noted this yesterday at the tangi, it takes a great deal of courage to break - particularly with a government - and form your own party because there’s so much uncertainty about whether it will work or won’t work,” he said.
“Secondly, in her case, along with Pita Sharples, who was there yesterday, she focused very much on the mana-enhancing way of doing politics.”

English said under Turia’s leadership, the Māori Party focused very much on a style of politics which he believed people would find irrelevant today because of factors like social media.
He credited Māori Party at the time for their research, constructive and well-thought-through speeches in the House, and conducting themselves with mana, which he said was very effective.


“Within a few years of leaving the Labour Party, she was part of a government, and able to conduct the Māori Party’s relationship in a government with quite a lot of tension, but always with integrity and that coalition lasted nine years and allowed her to persist with ideas like Whānau Ora and a lot of unrecognised work she did within the disability community as well.”
- RNZ

She achieved so much more for Maori than the current lot will ever achieve.
 

Musk should come over here and make some noise about opening an inquiry into the suspected political pedophile ring that existed if he’s the crusader for justice. 2025 must be the year where victims start to get justice according to him
What about the nationwide child abuse scandal thats happening right now??
 
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Or the amount of kids being killed in driveways here at present. Just thought with Musk levelling the accusations towards Starmer as his time as head of cps from 2008-2013, that these historic crimes were more in line with what he’s asking for in the inquiry
They arent in any way similar.

The British Muslim rape scandal has thousands of documented victims, hundreds of identified perpetrators, documents detailing police cover ups. The NZ "elite paedophile ring" is a hearsay rumor
 
They arent in any way similar.

The British Muslim rape scandal has thousands of documented victims, hundreds of identified perpetrators, documents detailing police cover ups. The NZ "elite paedophile ring" is a hearsay rumor
Aren’t they asking for the inquiry to ask questions how it was covered up? Like what an inquiry into these allegations would bring to light here too?Maybe you missed it because you don’t live here, but findings into state care abuse here has been found to be true, and some have put allegations towards some political figures. The week after Aussie McLean passed away, it surfaced that he was in fact abusing children. He was an Australian politician who came here and served under the national party. ACC over here has put aside $3.5 billion to pay out those who suffered
 
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Musk should come over here and make some noise about opening an inquiry into the suspected political pedophile ring that existed if he’s the crusader for justice. 2025 must be the year where victims start to get justice according to him
Doubt we'll ever get one, any more than the Brits will get a nationwide inquiry into Jimmy Saville procuring little kids for British politicians and the Firm.
 
Aren’t they asking for the inquiry to ask questions how it was covered up? Like what an inquiry into these allegations would bring light to light here too?Maybe you missed it because you don’t live here, but findings into state care abuse here has been found to be true, and some have put allegations towards some political figures. The week after Aussie McLean passed away, it surfaced that he was in fact abusing children. He was an Australian politician who came here and served under the national party. ACC over here has put aside $3.5 billion to pay out those who suffered
I am well aware of NZs history having lived there for 2 decades. I have relatives that worked at Cherry Farm and met people who spent time at Lake Alice. Non of what you said substantiate the elite paedophile ring rumours. There would have been multiple throughout NZs history without a doubt, but this is not "the thing"

Also theres no fucking need for an inquiry in the UK, everything is on the record.
 
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I am well aware of NZs history having lived there for 2 decades. I have relatives that worked at Cherry Farm and met people who spent time at Lake Alice. Non of what you said substantiate the elite paedophile ring rumours. There would have been multiple throughout NZs history without a doubt, but this is not "the thing"

Also theres no fucking need for an inquiry in the UK, everything is on the record.
It's not the current thing but I'd still like further inquiry into this alleged ring in NZ before all the perps die of old age
 
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I am well aware of NZs history having lived there for 2 decades. I have relatives that worked at Cherry Farm and met people who spent time at Lake Alice. Non of what you said substantiate the elite paedophile ring rumours. There would have been multiple throughout NZs history without a doubt, but this is not "the thing"

Also theres no fucking need for an inquiry in the UK, everything is on the record.
Yeah you’re probably right, the woman Musk has said should be locked up will turn herself in tomorrow and Starmer will step down after the allegations he knew all about it. No need for inquiry, everyone will cooperate. None of what I said substantiates the allegations because it needs investigating over here. People don’t just turn up with their hands in the air as you seem to think is going to happen in the uk
 
What's the estimated number of victims?
Immediately documented >5000. Conservative estimate with narrow parameters to 2011; 150,000.
Likely total going back to the early rumors in the 1980s, >500,000.

Not only that, but it’s the most sickening drepraved sexual torture, gang rape and abuse of girls as young as 10.

I suggest people go out and read some of the victims stories.
 
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Immediately documented >5000. Conservative estimate with narrow parameters to 2011; 150,000.
Likely total going back to the early rumors in the 1980s, >500,000.

Not only that, but it’s the most sickening drepraved sexual torture, gang rape and abuse of girls as young as 10.

I suggest people go out and read some of the victims stories.
They're bringing with them a culture of rape, just like the Vikings, Saxons, Normans, and Kraut barbarians before them.
 
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