I think it comes down to morals, values and standards, which the govt can’t influence very easily.
Of course it is a cause, intended or not. We are talking NZ here.
For a small, isolated country with a high reliance on agriculture and tourism can this legitimately be used as a reason for our societal decline?
Yeah but we're subject to global trends. Anyway, there was no anti-smacking bill, that was reactionary talkback propaganda. It was an amendment to close a loophole that lawyers were using to get clients off beating kids with chains and bats in the guise of discipline, from memory.
I think so, or we wouldn't have had fuckwits running around pretending to be crips and bloods from LA, for a start
I think that's a long bow to draw blaming China production for this
Could be, but they're all factors in our decline towards hell in a hand basket.
Disagree. The outcome was chilling.
More like a pathetic politician trying to get some air/traction by standing by a potentially flawed bill.
It’s supported by statistics that in September of 2024 that there’d been a 85% rise in violence against Women. It’s not a fallacy
The ramraids of the time were a result of labour’s soft on crime approach apparently as was widely accepted on here. Is the level of violent crime we’re seeing reported just another result of this?
Don't worry banning gang patches in public will sort this out.
Really just a sound bite. Was fascinated to see Seymour defend a persons right to give a nazi salute after a state in Aussie made it illegal, citing wanting to know who the idiots are but couldn’t see that many feel similarly about gangs with their patches being their identification as someone to avoid
That’s 100% stress on and within society - 5 years of covid and economic turmoil.
Hard to tell sometimes with you
This kind of comment I really struggle with. Why do people make the jump from banning gang patches to there will be no crime? It's another tool to help target gangs which I think is great and we have already seen it being used for that purpose. According to the stats 25% of crime is done by the gangs so a huge amount by very few people. That does still leave 75% to tackle from the rest of the population and there will always be crime committed.
We had how many changes of police minister under the last government and at least one of them was completely ineffective with an attitude of the police being too heavy handed leading to a number of instances where police were directed to observe and not to engage. Youth on justice facility roofs getting KFC to come down ffs. Add In the reducing prison numbers by not sending people to prison (about as good as Trumps if we don't test we have great COVID numbers). There is no doubt in my mind that the previous 6 years has contributed to this. And people commenting that it should all be fixed straight away because of some policy change aren't serious are they? It will take years to reverse but at least we have started.
