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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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@Damo, looking a bit further down, I think I can see where the Herald got their figures from in Clause 27.... the Herald's total adds up to $37 mil while the OT report says $38.3 mil in total.

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$2.0 mil capital funding, $5.7 mil for the pilot and $30.0 mill over four years.
 

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Big jump in drug use across the country.

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Infographic from: https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/wastewater-results-quarter-3-2024.pdf
Symptomatic of a bad recession isn’t it? Flowing through into stresses.

No telling if it’s more people using or those already using, just using more.
 
NZ should take note, the state of Victoria is basically bankrupt. The bill for those feel good handouts and handy shandies to the unions is now due.

Debt will grow from $150B to $200B in less than 5 years.

 
NZ should take note, the state of Victoria is basically bankrupt. The bill for those feel good handouts and handy shandies to the unions is now due.

Debt will grow from $150B to $200B in less than 5 years.

We should start with axing the idea of interest deductilbility (2.9 billion) and bring back the smokefree generation law (losing out on 17 billion of tax and 46 billion in economic benefits from now untill 2022-2050).
 
We should start with axing the idea of interest deductilbility (2.9 billion) and bring back the smokefree generation law (losing out on 17 billion of tax and 46 billion in economic benefits from now untill 2022-2050).
The minutiary isnt that important, what is important is generating income, not just writing blank cheques. Vic banned fossil fuel / gas, spent billions on vanity public transport projects that were useless, spent millions on virtue signalling on moral issues etc.

Just administer the states core functions on budget.
 
The minutiary isnt that important, what is important is generating income, not just writing blank cheques. Vic banned fossil fuel / gas, spent billions on vanity public transport projects that were useless, spent millions on virtue signalling on moral issues etc.

Just administer the states core functions on budget.
1 - operate within a govt surplus (eg don’t overspend, live within your means)
2 - tax so that you don’t impact economic growth (live within your means).

Quite simple really yet so difficult to get right.
 
1 - operate within a govt surplus (eg don’t overspend, live within your means)
2 - tax so that you don’t impact economic growth (live within your means).

Quite simple really yet so difficult to get right.
Because “social engineering” has leapt to the top of the list.

Whether it be trying to force people to ride bikes, or force people to stop using gas, or wading into other various cultural, social and political matters, it’s now about engineering the society into what is desired at the time.
 
1 - operate within a govt surplus (eg don’t overspend, live within your means)
2 - tax so that you don’t impact economic growth (live within your means).

Quite simple really yet so difficult to get right.
Simple but we have just seen more large rates rises by several councils and it looks like the economy is heading back to recession figures.
 
Simple but we have just seen more large rates rises by several councils and it looks like the economy is heading back to recession figures.
Putting aside technical definitions, we’ve been in a recession all year, the rate of decline is beginning to very slowly improve however for a few industries (increasingly cycling weaker periods). Businesses are hopefully we might see some minor positive growth from around April next year. Finger crossed!
 
Because “social engineering” has leapt to the top of the list.

Whether it be trying to force people to ride bikes, or force people to stop using gas, or wading into other various cultural, social and political matters, it’s now about engineering the society into what is desired at the time.
There’s a place for that but it has to be within the context of affordability, growing the economy and living within our means.

NZ arguably had the biggest social engineering with minimum wages increases, climate change regulations, banning exploration, anti farming regulations, debt based on non productive areas, etc, etc and surprise - we’ve got the longest, deepest recession in the world as we simply made ourselves uneconomic.

The unions and politicians calling for minimum wages increasing above inflation now should be made a laughing stock for their contribution to the mess we are in.
 
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