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[Worried2Death]

Trust you w2d to bring sensible rationale into the conversation and( Inruining) my amusement.
See what I did there .

Not much else to do this time of year but troll other Warriors fans, with the season over and our lives in ruins. Let's face it no one else will talk to us now the bandwagoners have all fucked off.

 

[Inruin]

Not much else to do at this time of year but troll other Warriors fans, season over and your life's in ruins. Let's face it they're the only ones who'll talk to us now the bandwagoners have all fucked off.

Better than being worried to death all the time ain't it?

 

[John Nick]

Not much else to do this time of year but troll other Warriors fans, season's over and life's in ruins. Let's face it they're the only ones who'll talk to us now the bandwagoners have all fucked off.

Yeah mate. That time of the year when all the pretending footy experts turn into political Noitalls.

 

[John Nick]

Better than being worried to death all the time ain't it?

No

 

[Worried2Death]

No

Glad I'm not the wizard of Tauranga, he thinks Bob Dylan has the answer to everything, what a moron. Probably did the wiring jobs on our navy boats did he?

 

[Inruin]

Glad I'm not the wizard of Tauranga, he thinks Bob Dylan has the answer to everything, what a moron. Probably did the wiring jobs on our navy boats did he?

Have you met him? You might change your mind if you did or then again maybe not.....

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Glad I'm not the wizard of Tauranga, he thinks Bob Dylan has the answer to everything, what a moron. Probably did the wiring jobs on our navy boats did he?

Ironically the great one had a sailboat that hit a reef and sank in Panama. The irony!

 

[Worried2Death]

Ironically the great one had a sailboat that hit a reef and sank in Panama. The irony!

Dunno about you but I'd be getting off the boat as soon as I hear "here's your captain, Bob Dylan"

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Dunno about you but I'd be getting off the boat as soon as I hear "here's your captain, Bob Dylan"

To quote Dylan: ‘I think women rule the world and that no man has ever done anything that a woman either hasn't allowed him to do or encouraged him to do.’

Are we thinking Dylan had a female captain on his boat?

Nah… let’s not start that again…

 

[Worried2Death]

To quote Dylan: ‘I think women rule the world and that no man has ever done anything that a woman either hasn't allowed him to do or encouraged him to do.’

Are we thinking Dylan had a female captain on his boat?

Nah… let’s not start that again…

Was probably David Bowie, judging by the number of his space ships that went missing. Bob and Dave were fishing buddies apparently, or music industry drug mules, you never know in that racket mate.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_4jqZ7Nbg

 

[Noitall]

Yeah mate. That time of the year when all the pretending footy experts turn into political Noitalls.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2PvnM7Vds

 

[Worried2Death]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2PvnM7Vds

Pretty good algorithms coming up in the old AI tonight mate. Whatever that means.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJkOXuEvDE

 

[Noitall]

Pretty good algorithms coming up in the old AI tonight mate. Whatever that means.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJkOXuEvDE

We’ve got a few good tracks here. We’ll start an AI party if we don’t watch out

 

[John Nick]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm2PvnM7Vds

Yeah thats the ONE

 

[juju]

Let's see what Juju has to say about that now, he has some convincing rebuttals sometimes when he's not in tears

The only time I've been close to tears on this forum was when Reece threw the Gridiron pass... Or NAS cracked Egan's teeth,

See I can totally accept in ruin's more measured reasoning and can agree with points.

It was an article about what the auditor general reported about the procurement posted without comment that seemed to trigger ole mate.

It's a bit rich to continually mention the billions borrowed / spent without the context of the pandemic and what other countries were also borrowing or spending at the same time.


It's a bit rich to talk about crickets - Crickets what's heard over Casey Costello is peddling tobacco policy and generally either being very very incompetent or severely compromised by lobbying
Crickets over the $200m tax break that only benefits Phillip Morris.
Crickets over Nicole McKee peddling policy directly out of the NRA play book.
Crickets over the fast track bill allowing overseas mining interests over ride conservation for absolute pittance of a royalty.
Crickets over the PM basically not being across any of the evidence his ministers are using to create policy.

So far the only evidence the government are supposedly good is the school cellphone ban and the work on the RMA. LOL

 

[MrFrankWhite]

It's another example of the government spending tax payers $$$ & creating policy on hunches and feeling - not off data, science, expert advice.
It

So Labors data, science and expert advice approach lowered hospital wait times, increased access to specialist and mental health services?

 

[Inruin]

The only time I've been close to tears on this forum was when Reece threw the Gridiron pass... Or NAS cracked Egan's teeth,

See I can totally accept in ruin's more measured reasoning and can agree with points.

It was an article about what the auditor general reported about the procurement posted without comment that seemed to trigger ole mate.

It's a bit rich to continually mention the billions borrowed / spent without the context of the pandemic and what other countries were also borrowing or spending at the same time.


It's a bit rich to talk about crickets - Crickets what's heard over Casey Costello is peddling tobacco policy and generally either being very very incompetent or severely compromised by lobbying
Crickets over the $200m tax break that only benefits Phillip Morris.
Crickets over Nicole McKee peddling policy directly out of the NRA play book.
Crickets over the fast track bill allowing overseas mining interests over ride conservation for absolute pittance of a royalty.
Crickets over the PM basically not being across any of the evidence his ministers are using to create policy.

So far the only evidence the government are supposedly good is the school cellphone ban and the work on the RMA. LOL

Let me respond to these points.

I didn't reply to the post that had the article link, I replied to another poster asking a few simple questions which you then jumped in on quite triggered and eager to jump on.

It has been mentioned and talked about several times about the context of the pandemic. You have even had to go back and correct one of your posts to aknowledge that previously.

It has been aknowledged by myself and others around the smoking legislation changes. Please provide any point where I have defended her.

I have stated several times on here that I am opposed to firearms legislation changes and have advised anyone that is strongly against these to actually write in and give feedback about it or contact their MP with their concerns.

I'm indifferent to the fast track bill, but on the whole think we need to make more of our resources like other countries do.

I don't see the PM being any different to Jacinda (who has been well publicised about making policy up on the fly) or Chris Hipkins in regards to evidence and ministers making policy. I would think it would be very difficult for any PM to be all over everything.

As for school cell phone bans and RMA reforms, I can only assume that is in response to you asking for any examples of policies around improving productivity. Those were two straight of the top of my head. Certainly not limited to them.

Your points simply aren't credible and don't stand up to scrutiny. Ironically, what you keep going on about with this government.

It seems to me that you are unwilling to aknowledge or call out anything bad the previous government did yet jump all over it with this one. Similarly, aknowledging or calling out anything good this Government has done. Everyone has their own biases and leanings, but like I said, at least many on here that are apparently right supporters can concede that not everything is good or everything is bad with a government. Another poster on here who is clearly not a fan of this Government and is clearly very left of centre that flood posts like crazy has stated EVERYTHING this government is doing is bad. Now that may just be rhetoric but also sums it up for me.

I will also take this moment to apologies for my language in a previous post that has now been deleted. There was no need for it but considering a large number of your posts include a personal insult to finish with it was probably warranted in some regard. I will refrain in future.

 

[juju]

Let me respond to these points.

I didn't reply to the post that had the article link, I replied to another poster asking a few simple questions which you then jumped in on quite triggered and eager to jump on.

It has been mentioned and talked about several times about the context of the pandemic. You have even had to go back and correct one of your posts to aknowledge that previously.

It has been aknowledged by myself and others around the smoking legislation changes. Please provide any point where I have defended her.

I have stated several times on here that I am opposed to firearms legislation changes and have advised anyone that is strongly against these to actually write in and give feedback about it or contact their MP with their concerns.

I'm indifferent to the fast track bill, but on the whole think we need to make more of our resources like other countries do.

I don't see the PM being any different to Jacinda (who has been well publicised about making policy up on the fly) or Chris Hipkins in regards to evidence and ministers making policy. I would think it would be very difficult for any PM to be all over everything.

As for school cell phone bans and RMA reforms, I can only assume that is in response to you asking for any examples of policies around improving productivity. Those were two straight of the top of my head. Certainly not limited to them.

Your points simply aren't credible and don't stand up to scrutiny. Ironically, what you keep going on about with this government.

It seems to me that you are unwilling to aknowledge or call out anything bad the previous government did yet jump all over it with this one. Similarly, aknowledging or calling out anything good this Government has done. Everyone has their own biases and leanings, but like I said, at least many on here that are apparently right supporters can concede that not everything is good or everything is bad with a government. Another poster on here who is clearly not a fan of this Government and is clearly very left of centre that flood posts like crazy has stated EVERYTHING this government is doing is bad. Now that may just be rhetoric but also sums it up for me.

I will also take this moment to apologies for my language in a previous post that has now been deleted. There was no need for it but considering a large number of your posts include a personal insult to finish with it was probably warranted in some regard. I will refrain in future.

And we go around and around.

 

[juju]

$500,000 in political donations associated with fast track projects

The projects include a quarry extension into conservation land and a development whose owner was supported by National MPs during a battle with Kāinga Ora.

www.rnz.co.nz

If it wasn't obvious - donate to the coalition to grease the wheels.

 

[Inruin]

And we go around and around.

Not really. I have made valid responses to your claims which have been shown to lack credibility and scrutiny.