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[MaybeTop8]

I’ll tell you what we all did vote on - getting cost of living back to reasonable levels. The disruption from these attacks on shipping lines & supply chain is potentially quite significant. In the last month global container freight rates have nearly tripled. That will fuel inflation if nothing is done.

Well, under labour it looks like the cost of living has come down. Fancy that. See one of my previous posts today.

 

[Inruin]

Well, under labour it looks like the cost of living has come down. Fancy that. See one of my previous posts today.

Seriously, the cost of living has come down? Please provide a link to that. I'm really interested to know what is cheaper now than this time last year that is making it easier on people. The same people withdrawing their kiwisaver in record numbers for hardship.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Seriously, the cost of living has come down? Please provide a link to that. I'm really interested to know what is cheaper now than this time last year that is making it easier on people. The same people withdrawing their kiwisaver in record numbers for hardship.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Seems greedy landlords are keeping it up https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/mone...24-as-united-nations-issues-grim-warning.html

 

[MaybeTop8]

Inflation slows to lowest rate in more than two years

The CPI rose 0.5 percent in the December quarter, as rising rents, rates and insurance offset cheaper food and fuel.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[Inruin]

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What is wage growth currently? Inflation reducing from it's massive percentage it was over such a long period does not equate to the cost of living going down. Prices are still rising much faster than they should be.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Well, under labour it looks like the cost of living has come down. Fancy that. See one of my previous posts today.

What on earth are you talking about? Cost of living is increasing and still much quicker than it should be.

 

[Rizzah]

Isn’t it still terrorism if it’s political attacks in an independent country?

So devils advocate, you would support Palestinian supporters attacking shipping routes in NZ?

What’s the difference?

I think context is required. If we were seeing a lot more pressure from countries that had considerable power to influence and potentially stop the Gaza massacre I would be more inclined to condemn what the Houthi's are doing. But nothing is really happening, the biggest player in this conflict, the US, is actively arming Israel in it's Genocide of the Gaza populace.

 

[MaybeTop8]

What on earth are you talking about? Cost of living is increasing and still much quicker than it should be.

"has come down" and "cost of living increasing" can coexist. E.g. prices rising but less sharply

 

[sup42]

Do you support or condemn the Houthi attacks irrespective of what’s happening in Israel/ Palestine?

Personally think they are unacceptable, destabilising and we should be doing all we can to ring-fence this and stop this spreading to the rest of the Middle East. This is happening 2,000km away in a completely different country…

I think you can do that while being neutral on the Israel/ Palestine conflict.

Given what happened on the Gazza Israel borders to kick all this shit off, I am wondering what your 'ring fencing' looks like?

 

[Inruin]

Well, under labour it looks like the cost of living has come down. Fancy that. See one of my previous posts today.

"has come down" and "cost of living increasing" can coexist. E.g. prices rising but less sharply

Well, if anyone can make sense of that I'm impressed.

The cost of living has come down but is also increasing. That's some funny stuff right there.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Well, if anyone can make sense of that I'm impressed.

The cost of living has come down but is also increasing. That's some funny stuff right there.

If something cost 6 in 2020 and it cost 8 in 2021 that's an increase of 33%. In one year. Now many variables can happen, including a wage rise. Excluding that and keeping it simple, the inflation is reduced in the next year and the same object goes up from 8 to 9 that following year. An increase of 12.5% relative to 8, and an increase of 15.66% relative to 6.

The price still went up, but by less than the previous year.

So it's come down but is also increasing, relative.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I think context is required. If we were seeing a lot more pressure from countries that had considerable power to influence and potentially stop the Gaza massacre I would be more inclined to condemn what the Houthi's are doing. But nothing is really happening, the biggest player in this conflict, the US, is actively arming Israel in it's Genocide of the Gaza populace.

To be fair, this is something I’m not particularly up with the historical and geopolitical context.

I can see your side and you seem to be more knowledgeable and passionate about the subject.

From an outsider I just think we need to stop it spreading or we face it spiralling into something a lot worse for everyone.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

If something cost 6 in 2020 and it cost 8 in 2021 that's an increase of 33%. In one year. Now many variables can happen, including a wage rise. Excluding that and keeping it simple, the inflation is reduced in the next year and the same object goes up from 8 to 9 that following year. An increase of 12.5% relative to 8, and an increase of 15.66% relative to 6.

The price still went up, but by less than the previous year.

So it's come down but is also increasing, relative.

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The big questions are which Labour policies domestically have pushed up inflation and which have decreased it to rate the govt?

I’ll start with a few, some directly linked to the property, rates and insurance costs:

Increased compliance costs on councils
Increased compliance costs on Landlords
Increased Brightline taxes
Increased Interest deductibility costs
Minimum wage rises above inflation
Taxes increasing greater than inflation

Back at you for those inflation busters delivered!

 

[defensivebomb]

Big Police operation in Albert Park earlier. Police with guns, helicopter up, part of CBD evacuated. They recently apprehended the culprit, a man in a wheelchair.

seems like overkill

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

seems like overkill

We don’t know the details of what was threatened?

I would imagine some sort of bomb threat?

 

[defensivebomb]

We don’t know the details of what was threatened?

Probably wasn’t displaying his disabled pass in the carpark

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

seems like overkill

Seen as were being funny… Nope, nobody was killed.

 

[Inruin]

If something cost 6 in 2020 and it cost 8 in 2021 that's an increase of 33%. In one year. Now many variables can happen, including a wage rise. Excluding that and keeping it simple, the inflation is reduced in the next year and the same object goes up from 8 to 9 that following year. An increase of 12.5% relative to 8, and an increase of 15.66% relative to 6.

The price still went up, but by less than the previous year.

So it's come down but is also increasing, relative.

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Oh please stop! I can see now why they thought there was no cost of living crisis.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Oh please stop!

I'll take Craig Renney over any of us any day