Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[defensivebomb]

“We own a house in Maui [Hawaii], okay. Two years ago, our rates bill ... was US$14,000.

“This year I got our rates bill. It’s $114,000. By the way, that is on top of the US$60,000 we pay for council taxes.

Poor bastard, that’s outrageous!!!! It’s not just the middle and working class that are doing it tough. It can’t be cheap to insure and fuel his helicopter either

Maybe he just tips the staff less, to lighten the load and come out even

 

[miket12]

Wouldn’t need the Moari party with labour and greens. Nobody saw that coming in 2017 either

Personally, I think Labour is far better at post-election negotiations than National and they've learnt to only enter a coalition with parties very close to their policies and have "confidence and supply" (C&S) agreements with those too far away from them.

I can see Labour having a coalition with the Greens (but not allowing the coalition agreement to include things too far "to the left") and only having a C&S agreement with the māori Party... to distance themselves from the more extreme policies of the māori Party. I can't see them entering into a coalition with both and let the two minor parties dictate as much as National did at the last election with NZ First and ACT.

Labour have learnt the requirements for negotiating after a MMP election and how to form a coalition government or a minority government with C&S agreements far better than National

 

[Noitall]

Personally, I think Labour is far better at post-election negotiations than National and they've learnt to only enter a coalition with parties very close to their policies and have "confidence and supply" (C&S) agreements with those too far away from them.

I can see Labour having a coalition with the Greens (but not allowing the coalition agreement to include things too far "to the left") and only having a C&S agreement with the māori Party... to distance themselves from the more extreme policies of the māori Party. I can't see them entering into a coalition with both and let the two minor parties dictate as much as National did at the last election with NZ First and ACT.

Labour have learnt the requirements for negotiating after a MMP election and how to form a coalition government or a minority government with C&S agreements far better than National

Yes I believe labour have adapted to mmp far better than national

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Not NZ politics but the first female Japanese pm sounds like a tough woman

 

[defensivebomb]

Famous last words, but I can't see Winston getting into bed with Labour. I think the nature of his policies and his voter base these days is incompatible with Labour and whoever else would be in a Labour coalition. Identity politics, big government, primary industries etc. His party is much less central than in previous years.

I think he is a much more natural fit with National. Luxon seems to give him and his party plenty of leeway and respect.

I guess that leaves Seymour in the cuck chair

 

[Noitall]

Famous last words, but I can't see Winston getting into bed with Labour. I think the nature of his policies and his voter base these days is incompatible with Labour and whoever else would be in a Labour coalition. Identity politics, big government, primary industries etc. His party is much less central than in previous years.

I think he is a much more natural fit with National. Luxon seems to give him and his party plenty of leeway and respect.

I guess that leaves Seymour in the cuck chair

Winston does enjoy Luxon’s leadership I think too because it’s non existent. He’s not from a political world so he lets the politicians do their thing being the coalition leaders and national hierarchy while he takes a backseat as the elite business man he sold himself as, not sure if you heard but he used to be a ceo of a big company. I think this too now is starting to work against him with the country feeling like it’s lacking a leader and polls show that with Hipkins leading him in preferred pm and seemingly having to do nothing to be there in the polls. Another leader with another style could change things completely