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A predictable test squad. I wonder how far off Mitch Hay will be from taking over the gloves? Would have been a good series to get him used to the 5 day format.
My hope is

Latham
Conway
Williamson
Ravindra
Mitchell
Blundell wk
Santner
Smith
Foulkes
Henry
Duffy

Bracewell is a waste of space in the test lineup, also over Young.

Surely there's a better bowler than tickner?
 

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My hope is

Latham
Conway
Williamson
Ravindra
Mitchell
Blundell wk
Santner
Smith
Foulkes
Henry
Duffy

Bracewell is a waste of space in the test lineup, also over Young.

Surely there's a better bowler than tickner?
With only 1 Plunket shield round so far Tickner is the best option available at the moment. O'Rourke, Jamieson, Sears or Fisher would be there if they weren't injured. Kristian Clarke could have been a bolster.
 
Was working most of the day so only got to see the final session, but an interesting day 1. WI toiled well with some great dismissals mixed with a few wild shots from NZ. Going to be a good test.
I thought we were weak to be fair. The west Indian bowlers were not that great. When Smith and Bracewell were going, it was a really nice time to bat.

Both then threw their wickets away. Young batting at 5 and in all sorts! He must be axed!

Lathem did all the hard work then didnt kick on again. Blundell should not have been selected.

I dont care what anyone says, the black caps coaching staff and selectors need to give themselves an uppercut! If it was australia we would have been rolled for under 150.

We have ready and waiting......

R Mariu opening batsman
C Heaphy wk Top Order!
M Hay wk
G Severin wk
C Fletcher wk

Take your pick for middle order
H Nicholls
N Kelly
D Phillips
M Boyle
B Jacobs

Ill admit jacobs and Boyle are probably a little early for test cricket, but where is the forward thinking in blooding these guys in the ODI series and getting them in the environment?
 
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I think when you look at the ages of our top tier players we will be a crisis similar to Zimbabwe in the future.

For me there has to be another level, a develioment level where younger players can learn their trade. We have Aussie next door. Give them games against State 2nd 11s. Be prepared for some thrashings but it is a learning process..
 
I think when you look at the ages of our top tier players we will be a crisis similar to Zimbabwe in the future.

For me there has to be another level, a develioment level where younger players can learn their trade. We have Aussie next door. Give them games against State 2nd 11s. Be prepared for some thrashings but it is a learning process..
Perhaps something like.. hmm NZ A?
 
Losing Mitchell and Santner for this one is a big deal. These are crucial WTC points.

There is not a single player in today's team that you could say is in form with the bat, some are just plain unworthy, and it feels like we are going back to some of the bits and pieces allrounders of the 90s. How Tickner is in the squad is beyond me.

They must be worried about Jamieson's ability to last 5 days.
 

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I think when you look at the ages of our top tier players we will be a crisis similar to Zimbabwe in the future.

For me there has to be another level, a develioment level where younger players can learn their trade. We have Aussie next door. Give them games against State 2nd 11s. Be prepared for some thrashings but it is a learning process..
I get your comparison to the Zimbabwean team that had the Flower brothers (our Kane and Ross) with some very useful players around them, but Zimbabwean crickets biggest crisis that followed the retirements was the political interference, thinking back to when Olonga a very good bowler had to cut his career short to go and live in England.

I'm not sure all is well in Australian cricket at the moment either with that comparison. Their best long form players are now well into their 30s, they have no idea what to do post Khawaja and when Warner retired they were so clueless they tried replacing him with a T20 slogger who didn't have the patience for test cricket and didn't last very long.
 
I get your comparison to the Zimbabwean team that had the Flower brothers (our Kane and Ross) with some very useful players around them, but Zimbabwean crickets biggest crisis that followed the retirements was the political interference, thinking back to when Olonga a very good bowler had to cut his career short to go and live in England.

I'm not sure all is well in Australian cricket at the moment either with that comparison. Their best long form players are now well into their 30s, they have no idea what to do post Khawaja and when Warner retired they were so clueless they tried replacing him with a T20 slogger who didn't have the patience for test cricket and didn't last very long.

Looking at glass half full it is in both counyries interest to invest in developing players. No need for age restrictions. One of our best batsmen Andrew Jones debuted at 29.
 
Not good that Blundell has picked up a long term injury, but it feels like a changing of the guard having Hay coming in for the next two tests.
 

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Not good that Blundell has picked up a long term injury, but it feels like a changing of the guard having Hay coming in for the next two tests.
I think it is a blessing in disguise. Blundell has been mediocre for too long now. I hope Hay comes in and kills it and takes his spot.

If Phillips did not have his back issues and stayed keeping that would have solved this issue already.
 
A review on the fitness and conditioning of players needs to be done. To me far too many injuries. I heard bowlers. Were prescribed road running when they play on grass.
 

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This is so hard for NZ. A plumb LBW and now a caught behind not given. But they seriously burnt one of their reviews big time so it falls on them for not having any reviews left for those two opportunities.
 
Fair play to the Windies, no one gave them a chance at all. Awesome for World Cricket to see some grit and determination, even if we are down a few bowlers.

Still hoping we dig ourselves out of this hole however
 

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