Recruitment Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention

Warriors 2024/2025 Recruitment & Retention Discussion
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-​	Player​	2024​	2025​	2026​	2027​	2028​
1	Bunty Afoa	✔	✔
2	Tom Ale	✔	✔
3	Mitchell Barnett	✔	✔
4	The Greatest of All-Time	✔	✔	✔
5	Kurt Capewell	✔	✔	✔
6	Wayde Egan	✔	✔
7	Addin Fonua-Blake	✔
8	Jackson Ford	✔	✔
9	Tohu Harris	✔	✔
10	Chanel Harris-Tavita	✔	✔	M
11	Shaun Johnson	✔
12	Edward Kosi	✔	✔
13	Jacob Laban	✔	✔	✔
14	Ali Leiataua	✔	✔
15	Freddy Lussick	✔	✔	✔
16	Zyon Maiu’u	✔	✔	✔
17	Te Maire Martin	✔	✔
18	Luke Metcalf	✔	✔	✔
19	Marcelo Montoya	✔	✔
20	Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad	✔	✔
21	Marata Niukore	✔	✔	✔
22	Adam Pompey	✔	✔
23	Demitric Sifakula	✔	✔	T
24	Jazz Tevaga	✔
25	Taine Tuaupiki	✔	✔
26	Roger Tuivasa-Sheck	✔	✔	✔
27	Dylan Walker	✔	✔
28	Dallin Watene-Zelezniak	✔	✔
D1	Ben Farr	D
D2	Etuane Fukofuka	D
D3	Leka Halasima	D	D	✔
D4	Patrick Moimoi	D
D5	Tanner Stowers-Smith	D
-	James Fisher-Harris	-	✔	✔	✔	✔

key: T = Team option, M = Mutual option, P = Player option, D = Development contract

Confirmed Top 30 2024: 28/30
Confirmed Development 2024: 5/6

Confirmed Top 30 2025: 26/30
Confirmed Development 2025: 1/6

2025 Gains: James Fisher-Harris (Panthers), Jett Cleary (Panthers)
2025 Losses: Addin Fonua-Blake (Sharks)
2025 Off Contract: Shaun Johnson, Jazz Tevaga

 

[cock_o]

That’s one of a couple of things that if I was looking at this from a Dragons perspective strike me as odd.
Why would you pay a cent to someone asking for a release?
A shoulder irritation lodged on 12 Dec and then later knowing the severity could be interpreted as us not treating an injury (assuming if that’s when it actually happened), which I can understand possibly looks worse if we released him not long after

Warriors most likely wanted him gone because he was not needed because he was the 5th half and was taking up salary cap room that could be used else where. So they would of told him he was free to talk to other clubs, thats the clubs way of trying to get him off to another club. When the club says he asked for a release thats just a nice way to put it. Then to get the release finalised they would of had to pay some of his salary to get the deal done.

 

[Inruin]

Warriors most likely wanted him gone because he was not needed because he was the 5th half and was taking up salary cap room that could be used else where. So they would of told him he was free to talk to other clubs, thats the clubs way of trying to get him off to another club. When the club says he asked for a release thats just a nice way to put it. Then to get the release finalised they would of had to pay some of his salary to get the deal done.

does make you wonder who the club are lining up as a signing for 2025. they are happy to wear his cost in this years cap but frees up space for next year

 

[Riz]

does make you wonder who the club are lining up as a signing for 2025. they are happy to wear his cost in this years cap but frees up space for next year

Nathan Cleary is coming home on compassionate grounds.

 

[FormerlyJamesW]

Nathan Cleary is coming home on compassionate grounds.

Yeah, and Ivan's gunna be webbys assistant.

 

[Noitall]

does make you wonder who the club are lining up as a signing for 2025. they are happy to wear his cost in this years cap but frees up space for next year

Talk Mitchell Moses not happy at eels. Couldn’t see us going after Issac Moses family though? That and the huge coin he’s on.

 

[Matiunz]

I enjoy these guys.

Cant argue with anything they really had to say.

Only question I have is that the Dragons posted on their social media clips of Volkman training with them and passing the ball. So is it more likely that he had a niggle or tweak from December 12th and has been aggravated since then, possibly at the Dragons training? Seems like he was training and passing at the Dragons, injury got worse to the point he couldn't pass the ball and then they have checked him out properly.

Those social media clips got deleted pretty quick which in itself is a bit suss

 

[Inruin]

Those social media clips got deleted pretty quick which in itself is a bit suss

Yay, look at Ronnie go! Getting stuck in at training with us. New Year, New Signing!

Ronnie who? No, he has a busted shoulder. Didn't sign him. No..... Not us. No way.

But you posted social media clips of him at your training.

Did we? Where are they?

You deleted them.

No... Not us. No way. Players can't train with a club unless their contract is lodged with the NRL. Does he have a contract lodged with the NRL? No. No way. Not us. Can't have been training with us then can he?

 

[Warriorshopeful]

Kemp contradicts himself to a degree when mentioning a player just has no idea what’s happening inside and tries to show up each week injured or not, but goes on to say Warriors should have known. If the player is not being forthcoming with their injury, how can a club know? Also the training with Warriors prior to him leaving might not have been contact training, but just running type training that surely wouldn’t have added to his shoulder injury or the injury not picked up on because more endurance work at that time than drills that would show he’s struggling to pass a ball? The Warriors couldn’t have known the dragons wouldn’t conduct their own medical for Volkman which by the sounds is just normal practice. This would have picked up the injury, so I don’t see anything we’ve done wrong? Sure there’s question marks around the timing of the release and the injury but it’s been on the cards that one of the halves would make way for SJ staying for some time.

Injuries can also not seem as bad to start then get worse over time. I remember when I broke my wrist and ruptured my ACL because of the ACL I didn't notice my wrist. 2-3 weeks later when I was at work I was struggling to lift things due to pain in my wrist went for a x ray and had a fractured scaphoid but hadn't really noticed it until I'd been lifting some heavier stuff.

 

[Noitall]

Yay, look at Ronnie go! Getting stuck in at training with us. New Year, New Signing!

Ronnie who? No, he has a busted shoulder. Didn't sign him. No..... Not us. No way.

But you posted social media clips of him at your training.

Did we? Where are they?

You deleted them.

No... Not us. No way. Players can't train with a club unless their contract is lodged with the NRL. Does he have a contract lodged with the NRL? No. No way. Not us. Can't have been training with us then can he?

Going to hurt the dragons in recruitment this sort of shit. Something rotten behind the scenes too when no one turns up to honour your marquee player Ben Hunt and he publicly upset about it. Now they bring in a known cheat as their coach, though he’s got results in the past. Hard to see that they improve but some people shine in adversity.

 

[Noitall]

Injuries can also not seem as bad to start then get worse over time. I remember when I broke my wrist and ruptured my ACL because of the ACL I didn't notice my wrist. 2-3 weeks later when I was at work I was struggling to lift things due to pain in my wrist went for a x ray and had a fractured scaphoid but hadn't really noticed it until I'd been lifting some heavier stuff.

The scans apparently showed 2 screws had worked their way loose, could it be the operation or construction hasn’t worked rather than a contact injury?

 

[Noitall]

See that dragons are close to signing Christian Tuipulotu from the sea eagles apparently. Good sign for dragons that a player has followed Flanagan from him assistant there last year, would think they’d strengthen other areas than wing though. Ravalawa has got one sewn up.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

See that dragons are close to signing Christian Tuipulotu from the sea eagles apparently. Good sign for dragons that a player has followed Flanagan from him assistant there last year, would think they’d strengthen other areas than wing though. Ravalawa has got one sewn up.

Yeah but the other side leaked points big time, decent signing.

 

[Noitall]

Yeah but the other side leaked points big time, decent signing.

Good attacker, but a 78% tackle efficiency himself doesn’t set the world on fire with outstanding defence.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Good attacker, but a 78% tackle efficiency himself doesn’t set the world on fire with outstanding defence.

Yeah but he’s replacing Mathew Feagai who is a huge liability. Had easily the worst negative play stats (combo of missed tackles, try causes, errors, etc) in the NRL last season. Next worst in order were Paul Alamoti, Jojo Fifita, Junior Tupou, Asu Kepaoa & Reed Mahoney. The worst 20 are dominated by Bulldogs, Titans & Tigers players, however Feagai is way out in front. A smart coach like Flanno was always going to dump him.

 

[Noitall]

Yeah but he’s replacing Mathew Feagai who is a huge liability. Had easily the worst negative play stats (combo of missed tackles, try causes, errors, etc) in the NRL last season. Next worst in order were Paul Alamoti, Jojo Fifita, Junior Tupou, Asu Kepaoa & Reed Mahoney. The worst 20 are dominated by Bulldogs, Titans & Tigers players, however Feagai is way out in front. A smart coach like Flanno was always going to dump him.

I’m not sure Tuipulotu will fix that and could speak more to the backline around Feagai for that negative stat. They both tackled at the same efficiency last year and Tuipulotu only offered 10 extra average run meters from about 10 less games. Tuipulotu starts if he ends up there but really liked the looks of Sione Finau for them who debuted against us too. Probably a bit early to put all eggs in his basket though.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I’m not sure Tuipulotu will fix that and could speak more to the backline around Feagai for that negative stat. They both tackled at the same efficiency last year and Tuipulotu only offered 10 extra average run meters from about 10 less games. Tuipulotu starts if he ends up there but really liked the looks of Sione Finau for them who debuted against us too. Probably a bit early to put all eggs in his basket though.

Nah he’s replacing a player that was dead last in the comp, it’s a solid upgrade. Feagai shouldn’t have been playing first grade. Anyway nothing to do with the Warriors so moving on.

 

[Noitall]

Nah he’s replacing a player that was dead last in the comp, it’s a solid upgrade. Feagai shouldn’t have been playing first grade. Anyway nothing to do with the Warriors so moving on.

Nah Moses Suli will have Tuipulotu dead last next year. If he’s got any brains he’ll stay away.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Nah Moses Suli will have Tuipulotu dead last next year. If he’s got any brains he’ll stay away.

It was Zac Lomax that was the other problem, also made the worst 20 & was on the same side as Feagai

 

[Noitall]

It was Zac Lomax that was the other problem, also made the worst 20 & was on the same side as Feagai

Not sure about the whole season, but the game we beat the dragons convincingly, Suli and Feagai were on the same side.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Not sure about the whole season, but the game we beat the dragons convincingly, Suli and Feagai were on the same side.

I always struggle to work out who played which side, think Zac Lomax switched around a bit as well. I know the 2 Feagai’s played the same side when Lomax was out injured.