Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[miket12]

No one can claim that Winnie isn't entertaining.... voting one week for a Bill (which was described as a bill NZ First having "no hesitation in commending this bill to the House” by one of his MP's) to this week saying NZ First will be campaigning against it at the next election. Got to love/hate Winnie!!!

'Getting ready to go with Labour again': Seymour reacts to Peters' bombshell

Winston Peters has promised to repeal the two-day-old Regulatory Standards Act.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[John Nick]

No one can claim that Winnie isn't entertaining.... voting one week for a Bill (which was described as a bill NZ First having "no hesitation in commending this bill to the House” by one of his MP's) to this week saying NZ First will be campaigning against it at the next election. Got to love/hate Winnie!!!

'Getting ready to go with Labour again': Seymour reacts to Peters' bombshell

Winston Peters has promised to repeal the two-day-old Regulatory Standards Act.

www.nzherald.co.nz

I reckon Winston missed a trick here. Should have crossed the floor and at least he would have gotten bigger headlines.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I reckon Winston missed a trick here. Should have crossed the floor and at least he would have gotten bigger headlines.

Just wait until closer to the election…

It’s going to be the Winston show.

 

[MaybeTop8]

The fossil fuel backed government's war on evs

https://archive.ph/5lJ0L

 

[Rick O’Shay]

The fossil fuel backed government's war on evs

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https://archive.ph/5lJ0L

Did you read the article


Officials ultimately recommended options chosen by the Government, but warned that New Zealanders would probably spend about $115 million on extra fuel between 2026 and 2050, which slightly undercut the $264m in savings on vehicles touted by the Government.

Was never a brilliant mathematician but isn't the slight undercut a 40 odd % saving overall

 

[Inruin]

Did you read the article

Rick, Rick, Rick....

Many have asked, none have been answered

It's like the narrow minded far right tories on these channels simply aren't capable of realising.....well, basic humanity.

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I agree

Overall crime rates decreasing and the number of serious youth offending has been dropping since last year.

Great work from this Government, particularly from where they had to pick up from

 

[Worried2Death]

Rick, Rick, Rick....

Many have asked, none have been answered

I agree

Overall crime rates decreasing and the number of serious youth offending has been dropping since last year.

Great work from this Government, particularly from where they had to pick up from

Lux is a fairly decent bloke from what I can tell, bit of a dork but who cares if he has our interests foremost. I don't think they should roll him, especially not for Smokin' Chris Bishop.
We have an MMP problem with these coalitions of extremist parties with shady goals and backers. I'm starting to prefer FPTP over mixed member with proportional lists, too easy to use minor parties as proxies to push unpalatable policy through the back door.

 

[Inruin]

Lux is a fairly decent bloke from what I can tell, bit of a dork but who cares if he has our interests foremost. I don't think they should roll him, especially not for Smokin' Chris Bishop.
We have an MMP problem with these coalitions of extremist parties with shady goals and backers. I'm starting to prefer FPTP over mixed member with proportional lists, too easy to use minor parties as proxies to push unpalatable policy through the back door.

I think he's actually done ok. He certainly has a likeability issue but in terms of where we were, to where we are now and will be this time next year he has been ok. Certainly a huge improvement on the previous lot IMO

 

[Worried2Death]

I think he's actually done ok. He certainly has a likeability issue but in terms of where we were, to where we are now and will be this time next year he has been ok. Certainly a huge improvement on the previous lot IMO

Time will tell, he's really only got about 40 weeks for the green shoots to start turning into tangible results to campaign on.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I think he's actually done ok. He certainly has a likeability issue but in terms of where we were, to where we are now and will be this time next year he has been ok. Certainly a huge improvement on the previous lot IMO

Many people have the memory of a gold fish. The country was imploding when National took over.

National has made the hard calls, which Labour wouldn’t do and if people punish good leadership then the country’s stuffed.

Our politics will turn into populist short termism where we can’t do what labour right, only what’s popular.

Lux is a fairly decent bloke from what I can tell, bit of a dork but who cares if he has our interests foremost. I don't think they should roll him, especially not for Smokin' Chris Bishop.
We have an MMP problem with these coalitions of extremist parties with shady goals and backers. I'm starting to prefer FPTP over mixed member with proportional lists, too easy to use minor parties as proxies to push unpalatable policy through the back door.

Agree. I’m starting to believe MMP has been a failure. Small parties pandering to the fringe have way too much say on both sides and it’s actually destroying confidence in the whole of politics. Govts need to be centrist overall,

 

[Inruin]

Time will tell, he's really only got about 40 weeks for the green shoots to start turning into tangible results to campaign on.

The economy will be a big one but there are other areas he can point to that improvements have been made. Regardless it will come down to NZFirst and who they go with, as usual.

 

[Worried2Death]

The economy will be a big one but there are other areas he can point to that improvements have been made. Regardless it will come down to NZFirst and who they go with, as usual.

May as well declare ourselves a Winstonian Republic and make him president for life, there'd be no difference.

 

[MaybeTop8]

The economy will be a big one but there are other areas he can point to that improvements have been made. Regardless it will come down to NZFirst and who they go with, as usual.

You lot are delusional. Good on ya righties, it's a complete shitshow except for yer mates

 

[Inruin]

You lot are delusional. Good on ya righties, it's a complete shitshow except for yer mates

Typical nothing post, in response to actual facts, from a deluded fringe leftie who cant even point to a successful country that has implemented his 'dream' utopia.

 

[Worried2Death]

You lot are delusional. Good on ya righties, it's a complete shitshow except for yer mates

Is NZ politics the ultimate shitshow, or is that the Trump thread

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

You lot are delusional. Good on ya righties, it's a complete shitshow except for yer mates

Context National inherited huge inflation, 1 year into recession, crisis in health, education, housing, record debt, record surplus, etc

- Crime is demonstrably better
- Education is clearly better with changes that were sorely needed
- Economy is similar (1 year of recession before National took over, everyone seems to forget). However inflation is much better and unemployment is below Labours forecast for this year.
- health - no improvement but no better or worse than Labours effort (or the past 20 years to be honest).
- Housing - house prices more affordable for first home buyers, rents stabilised after a horrible run under Labour, emergency housing down (arguably homelessness up but no clear data).

Minor stuff like smoking ban, school lunches, cook straight ferries all settled down after typical lefty ‘end of the world’ outrage.

Clear progress in many policy areas as opposed to the dysfunctional policy scrapping of the last govt (3 waters, Auckland light rail, Kiwibuild, etc.)

Overall not bad giving what they inherited. Doing the hard work to set us up for future success.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Latest I’ve been hearing on the economy is quite varied. One company said this week they’re witnessing the fastest ever recovery out of a recession, another that’s currently delivering year-on-year growth thinks that momentum might struggle to hold in early 2026 & another in construction doesn’t expect to see any growth for another 12 months. Could be a couple of reasonably high profile casualties soonish.

Oh and the US sounds screwed, recession incoming.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Latest I’ve been hearing on the economy is quite varied. One company said this week they’re witnessing the fastest ever recovery out of a recession, another that’s currently delivering year-on-year growth thinks that momentum might struggle to hold in early 2026 & another in construction doesn’t expect to see any growth for another 12 months. Could be a couple of reasonably high profile casualties soonish.

Oh and the US sounds screwed, recession incoming.

Construction generally has a massive lag due to requiring consents, etc but Classic builders (biggest builders in Tauranga) just had their best month in 2 years, signing 57 contracts for new houses.

I think the bounce back is being led from outside Auckland with the rural primary industries boom, whereas in the past it was Auckland led. Immigration is still low affecting Auckland, instead of pulling the economy up.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

Construction generally has a massive lag due to requiring consents, etc but Classic builders (biggest builders in Tauranga) just had their best month in 2 years, signing 57 contracts for new houses.

I think the bounce back is being led from outside Auckland with the rural primary industries boom, whereas in the past it was Auckland led. Immigration is still low affecting Auckland, instead of pulling the economy up.

Yes and without going into detail, there’s some fairly well known underlying issues with certain construction industry operators as well.

But I wouldn’t rush to praise the current Government for too much. The general view is they’ve been pretty poor at engaging with industries & only really got off their arse a few months ago. Luxon & Willis are useless.

 

[Worried2Death]

Yes and without going into detail, there’s some fairly well known underlying issues with certain construction industry operators as well.

Are we talking cartels and corruption on a grand scale