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[wizard of Tauranga]

While there’s name suppression nobody knows anything.

He could have some completely different crusade (eg might be the Tonkin and Taylor engineer that heckled Winston)

Or it could be a paid up green member that simply couldn’t make the protests when they were on - the fact he’s trying to distance himself from the protests suggests he’s trying to protect the Greens…

Who knows until the his name and background comes out.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Yeah. I'm amazed about recent comments on this forum

I'm not. There's at least one recidivist liar regularly on here, and no, it's not me

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Concerning survey

 

[Inruin]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Concerning survey

Why would you even have a survey like that? What does on track mean to each of those respondents? Wouldn't a better worded question have been something like 'Do you think there is a place for violence in our political system?'

 

[juju]

The māori Party are basically imploding.

Some bad nepotism & misuse of budget has come to light & the infighting kicked off.
Will get uglier & could see Labour bounce back in the māori seats.

 

[MaybeTop8]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

Concerning survey

Classic taxpayers union

 

[juju]

The māori Party are basically imploding.

Some bad nepotism & misuse of budget has come to light & the infighting kicked off.
Will get uglier & could see Labour bounce back in the māori seats.

and threats of violence... yikes.

 

[MaybeTop8]

destructive. regressive. antiscience. antifact. pro atlas. pro oil and gas.

Hard right. Climate change deniers. Liars. Corporate greed. Stealing power and destroying the environment for their mates.

That's this government. This is the right. This is who they are.

This: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...used-climate-denial-methane-reduction-targets



on the same day as this:

New Zealand oceans warming 34% faster than global average, putting homes and industry at risk, report finds

NZ$180bn worth of housing and $26bn of infrastructure at risk of flooding and storm damage, new government report finds

www.theguardian.com

 

[Worried2Death]

Why would you even have a survey like that? What does on track mean to each of those respondents? Wouldn't a better worded question have been something like 'Do you think there is a place for violence in our political system?'

I assume "on track" means very different things to TPM and ACT voters, if they're going to be the two main protagonists of the political violence.

 

[miket12]

destructive. regressive. antiscience. antifact. pro atlas. pro oil and gas.

Hard right. Climate change deniers. Liars. Corporate greed. Stealing power and destroying the environment for their mates.

That's this government. This is the right. This is who they are.

This: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...used-climate-denial-methane-reduction-targets



on the same day as this:

New Zealand oceans warming 34% faster than global average, putting homes and industry at risk, report finds

NZ$180bn worth of housing and $26bn of infrastructure at risk of flooding and storm damage, new government report finds

www.theguardian.com

Anti-science? Within the last six years, scientists have shown that methane breaks down in the atmosphere far faster than what had been calculated in the late 1800's.... which is how the Greens say it should be measured.

The unfortunate thing is that the science isn't as "settled" as the Greens would have you believe. They want us to accept all climate science.... except for that which contradicts their view. Methane breaks down between 7-12 years.... CO2 takes between 500-2000 years. I wonder which gas will have a more devastating effect on the climate?

And before you "blame" the right, this is from an article when the "left" were in power...

Methane and other major greenhouse gases

This page has information on the two sources of methane and how they differ. It also has information on carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide.

environment.govt.nz

Oh, in worse news than that.... the more CO2 in the atmosphere, the faster methane breaks down.

 

[Noitall]

Stuff

www.stuff.co.nz

We seem to be very much aligned with American views on things currently

 

[Inruin]

Anti-science? Within the last six years, scientists have shown that methane breaks down in the atmosphere far faster than what had been calculated in the late 1800's.... which is how the Greens say it should be measured.

The unfortunate thing is that the science isn't as "settled" as the Greens would have you believe. They want us to accept all climate science.... except for that which contradicts their view. Methane breaks down between 7-12 years.... CO2 takes between 500-2000 years. I wonder which gas will have a more devastating effect on the climate?

And before you "blame" the right, this is from an article when the "left" were in power...

Methane and other major greenhouse gases

This page has information on the two sources of methane and how they differ. It also has information on carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide.

environment.govt.nz

Oh, in worse news than that.... the more CO2 in the atmosphere, the faster methane breaks down.

It would also be interesting to understand why our oceans surface temperature is rising at a faster rate than the rest of the world. Surely we aren't causing so much pollution compared to the big 4 countries that we are getting adverse readings to those elsewhere on the globe?

 

[Noitall]

Why would you even have a survey like that? What does on track mean to each of those respondents? Wouldn't a better worded question have been something like 'Do you think there is a place for violence in our political system?'

Reminiscent of messages that have been coming out of America regarding civil wars and the like over the last 5 or so years

 

[Worried2Death]

Reminiscent of messages that have been coming out of America regarding civil wars and the like over the last 5 or so years

Reminiscent of the FSB Active Measures for subversion that Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us about.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Reminiscent of the FSB Active Measures for subversion Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us about.

Who were the useful idiots agin?

 

[Noitall]

Reminiscent of the FSB Active Measures for subversion Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us about.

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Reminiscent of the FSB Active Measures for subversion that Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us about.

 

[Worried2Death]

Who were the useful idiots agin?

The radical left and also the far right who they use to liquidate the radical left and who are then put against the wall themselves because they know too much.

 

[Rick O’Shay]

destructive. regressive. antiscience. antifact. pro atlas. pro oil and gas.

Hard right. Climate change deniers. Liars. Corporate greed. Stealing power and destroying the environment for their mates.

That's this government. This is the right. This is who they are.

This: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...used-climate-denial-methane-reduction-targets



on the same day as this:

New Zealand oceans warming 34% faster than global average, putting homes and industry at risk, report finds

NZ$180bn worth of housing and $26bn of infrastructure at risk of flooding and storm damage, new government report finds

www.theguardian.com

Thank Christ for that. I'm sick of having to put my wetsuit on to swim at Back Beach in the middle of summer.

Do you think New Plymouth could be the GC of NZ if it warms up a bit.? Some real cheap property here if you think it's a go.

Asking for a friend

 

[Noitall]

Thank Christ for that. I'm sick of having to put my wetsuit on to swim at Back Beach in the middle of summer.

Do you think New Plymouth could be the GC of NZ if it warms up a bit.? Some real cheap property here if you think it's a go.

Asking for a friend

You’ll look like a seal going through shark alley