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[wizard of Tauranga]

Using God as a placeholder for "Reality" is totally semantic. I call reality God sometimes too but I'm an atheist pretty much, it renders the word meaningless if God has the divine and interventionist properties that most people of faith claim.

Should we ask Schrodinger's cat about reality?

This thread might just find out the meaning of the universe one day.

 

[Worried2Death]

Should we ask Schrodinger's cat about reality?

This thread might just find out the meaning of the universe one day.

Might have to wait for Schrodinger's aliens to give us that knowledge, if they exist and know what the universe actually is any more than we do.

 

[Noitall]

Well we only have reports from decades after his death in archaic languages to go on, believing those words are divinely inspired is the leap of faith.

I’m all for someone treating the bible like the 10 commandments if that helps them be the best person they can be in their teachings but personally I see it like a fairy tale. Annoys me with some of the compulsory tithing that some churches require, I think your time is the most precious thing you can give them. Some use the money legitimately, but there’s some crooks out there too. Righteous gemstones is a good pisstake on the evangelical movement

 

[Inruin]

I’m all for someone treating the bible like the 10 commandments if that helps them be the best person they can be in their teachings but personally I see it like a fairy tale. Annoys me with some of the compulsory tithing that some churches require, I think your time is the most precious thing you can give them. Some use the money legitimately, but there’s some crooks out there too. Righteous gemstones is a good pisstake on the evangelical movement

I think most religions are fine taken at face/faith value. It's when grifters, activists and extremists get involved that it becomes corrupted and abused

 

[Worried2Death]

I’m all for someone treating the bible like the 10 commandments if that helps them be the best person they can be in their teachings but personally I see it like a fairy tale. Annoys me with some of the compulsory tithing that some churches require, I think your time is the most precious thing you can give them. Some use the money legitimately, but there’s some crooks out there too. Righteous gemstones is a good pisstake on the evangelical momovement.

Did you see the doco God Forbid about the Falwells, the pool boy, Trump and Michael Cohen? As my Irish granny used to say, "Jaysus, Mary and Joseph and all the holy hoverin' saints!"

 

[Worried2Death]

I think most religions are fine taken at face/faith value. It's when grifters, activists and extremists get involved that it becomes corrupted and abused

And invariably ends up with shooting people in pits at some stage. Mind you, the communists proved you don't need religions for that to happen, it's just what we do to each other when psychopaths inevitably come to power.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I’m all for someone treating the bible like the 10 commandments if that helps them be the best person they can be in their teachings but personally I see it like a fairy tale. Annoys me with some of the compulsory tithing that some churches require, I think your time is the most precious thing you can give them. Some use the money legitimately, but there’s some crooks out there too. Righteous gemstones is a good pisstake on the evangelical movement

Like in sport, different players need different types of ‘coaches’ with different strategies.

- Many people are self-actualised (don’t need religion)
- some need motivation, guidance and support towards the right way (classic church)
- some need a hero and role model to look up to, someone that leads the life they dream of (Destiny church)

 

[Noitall]

I think most religions are fine taken at face/faith value. It's when grifters, activists and extremists get involved that it becomes corrupted and abused

Some genuinely believing Jesus will return and all that borders on delusional, but that’s just to me. Perhaps that’s faith? Evidence is what makes me believe though

 

[Worried2Death]

Some genuinely believing Jesus will return and all that borders on delusional, but that’s just to me. Perhaps that’s faith? Evidence is what makes me believe though

And if he does come back, how do we know it's not a Project Blue Beam psyop

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

And if he does come back, how do we know it's not a Project Blue Beam psyop

Can we know it’s not AI generated. AI might use a god to control us like the rulers in the past did. Scary thought

Can’t believe anything anymore unless we see it with our own eyes.

 

[Inruin]

Can’t believe anything anymore unless we see it with our own eyes.

Even then I'm not sure you can with what AI can achieve

 

[Worried2Death]

Even then I'm not sure you can with what AI can achieve

"All he will believe are his eyes, and his eyes will just tell him lies" -Bob Dylan, the prophet of profit

 

[Worried2Death]

This thread took a weird spiritual tangent. Wonder what David Seymour’s up to.

 

[Worried2Death]

Anyone know if the record low road toll has anything to do with the woke lowered speed limits?

 

[Worried2Death]

No one's taking my bait, I'm going to bed.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Anyone know if the record low road toll has anything to do with the woke lowered speed limits?

Nah mate, the lower tourist numbers driving down the wrong side of the road has made a huge difference.

So glad we’ve put our own people before economic growth.


Ps. Despite tourism numbers officially being down, yesterday my tourism business had its highest record turnover to date.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Anyone know if the record low road toll has anything to do with the woke lowered speed limits?

Is there a link between actively frustrating motorists into unnatural lower speeds and a society turning around and running down police and ‘bashing the missus’?

Been a 1000 cuts pile up of extra stresses pushed onto people the last few years.

Big 3 would have to be:

- covid stress
- economical/ financial/ inflation stress
- road cones and lower speed limits

 

[Inruin]

Nah mate, the lower tourist numbers driving down the wrong side of the road has made a huge difference.

So glad we’ve put our own people before economic growth.


Ps. Despite tourism numbers officially being down, yesterday my tourism business had its highest record turnover to date.

Do you keep any record of overseas versus domestic customers?

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Do you keep any record of overseas versus domestic customers?

There are official figures available but we don’t keep a breakdown ourselves.

Domestics bounced back post covid; international is way down still and anecdotally talking to other operators this summers down on last summer for internationals which is the opposite of what we all want.

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

RIP Dame Tariana Turia.

Te Pāti Māori co-founder and former leader. Lots of mana and passion.

One of my favourites