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The thread centers on New Zealand's upcoming election, primarily debating the economic management and policy differences between the center-left Labour government and center-right National/ACT opposition. Key criticisms target Labour's fiscal stewardship, citing ballooning government expenditure #7#272, housing unaffordability, and unfulfilled promises like KiwiBuild and dental care expansion #16#12. A user #7 highlighted Labour's annual 9% spending growth versus 1.5% under previous governments, arguing this fueled inflation. National's tax-cut policy faced scrutiny over funding gaps and legality, with user #215 questioning Luxon's reliance on "trust me" assurances.
Leadership competence emerged as a critical theme, particularly in later posts. Luxon drew heavy criticism after a contentious interview where he struggled to defend policy details #194#199#211, while Willis faced backlash for her economic credentials. Hipkins garnered fleeting praise for articulation but was ultimately seen as representing poor governmental outcomes #45#119. A trusted user #308 presented expert economic analysis contradicting Treasury optimism. Infrastructure issues—like Wellington's water crisis and the dental school staffing shortage—were cited as examples of systemic mismanagement #235#12. Notable policy debates included road-user charges for EVs #220, immigration impacts on rents #299, and coalition scenarios involving NZ First #182#258. Early fringe discussions on candidates' rugby allegiances gave way to substantive policy critiques, culminating in grim Treasury forecasts discussed in posts #271#304#308. User #168 also revealed concerns about Labour rushing regulatory changes to entrench policies pre-election.

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Economic Policies, Housing Crisis, Leadership Competence

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How can you unilaterally change a contract? Don't both parties need to agree changes?
So in the treaty, what were the principles? Who can define them? how was co-governance ever bought into it? With what authority?

Can only the Queen and those original 500 māori define them?

If it was between māori and the England (the treaty made māori English subjects). Where is the NZ govt in all this?

Doesn’t the govt represent māori, the queen and all of us through elections? Don’t more māori voting for National than voted for the māori party give the incumbent govt a mandate to govern?

Again, I support the concept we’re all equal; however don’t like the ACT solution but think it’s all pointless anyway and a show as it’s already a dead bill.
 
So in the treaty, what were the principles? Who can define them? how was co-governance ever bought into it? With what authority?

Can only the Queen and those original 500 māori define them?

If it was between māori and the England (the treaty made māori English subjects). Where is the NZ govt in all this?

Doesn’t the govt represent māori, the queen and all of us through elections? Don’t more māori voting for National than voted for the māori party give the incumbent govt a mandate to govern?

Again, I support the concept we’re all equal; however don’t like the ACT solution but think it’s all pointless anyway and a show as it’s already a dead bill.
The issue of co-governance will not go away when the ACT bill is defeated.
Eventually the country will have to confront it.
 
The issue of co-governance will not go away when the ACT bill is defeated.
Eventually the country will have to confront it.
Perhaps the two treaties partners can work towards that.

Rather than the Act Party and it's donors ramming it down the countries throat.
 
Perhaps New Zealanders can decide.
The issue was first raised by David Lange in the late 80's.
Perhaps they should, if the policy was actually well thought out and constructed in collaboration with the treaty partner

& not a bill thats rubbished by both sides of the political divide, rubbished by the legal community, rubbished by the academic community, rubbished by church leaders etc

Is there actually any well thought out argument in support of Seymours proposal anywhere? Can you post it?
 
Doesn’t the govt represent māori, the queen and all of us through elections? Don’t more māori voting for National than voted for the māori party give the incumbent govt a mandate to govern?
Sure but governing doesn't mean breaking contracts because you feel like it. If you had agreed to sell your house to the crown for a million bucks and had a contract and David Seymour wanted to have a debate about paying you 10c instead would you support that coz a bunch of people like you voted for him?
 
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Perhaps they should, if the policy was actually well thought out and constructed in collaboration with the treaty partner

& not a bill thats rubbished by both sides of the political divide, rubbished by the legal community, rubbished by the academic community, rubbished by church leaders etc

Is there actually any well thought out argument in support of Seymours proposal anywhere? Can you post it?
Let the public decide.
 
Sure but governing doesn't mean breaking contracts because you feel like it. If you had agreed to sell your house to the crown for a road for a million bucks and had a contract and David Seymour wanted to have a debate about paying you 10c instead would you support that coz a bunch of people like you voted for him?
What contract is going to be broken?
 
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