Post Match Warriors v Roosters - [Round 3, 2025]

[snake77]

That Sterlo show was great. I like the Matty Johns podcast with Cooper Cronk when they start breaking down play.

This is the best show for the technical aspects.

I used to like the coaching breakdowns they would have on the NRL website. Our old coach Matt Elliott was pretty good with that. A pity we don't get Super League here anymore. I am pretty sure they do some breakdowns of the games post match. They had a good session with Trent Robinson after one of the World Club Challenge games where he'd breakdown little things like their go forward.

I found some YouTube channels for union that breakdown the game better than our analysts who don't mention anything technical. I tried to find some league channels. I found one with a coach who would point out some good things but it needed more time on production.

 

[snake77]

Interesting, I could follow the other bloke fine, he's got a vicious Aussie twang though for sure.

And I appreciate technical jargon in sports talk personally, I reckon league coverage in general is terrible for dumbing the game down instead of educating us. Bring back Sterlo's NRL tactics show, too much NRL 360 style bs.

The broadcasters seem to go bring in nice tools to disect the game then end up ditching them.

Tools like when they would freeze it and isolate players who had caused the gap etc. Or highlight on screen where the kick is landing.

I'm pretty sure in the past there has been graphics showing where the try scoring set started and where each tackle for that set occurred. They used to bring up graphics on certain players on where they have run etc.

Some of these are a bit hard with the ball in play for long periods which is what they want.

Also needs commentators that pick up the patterns.

The coverage can be improved. Maybe some camera angle changes to show the formations or another smaller screen like in some replays showing certain things. Improve the stats. People go on about Moneyball the recruitment was what people notice it was actually based off stats.

 

[CWC]

Can’t believe the dogs and raiders game from last year were brought up against TMM - we ripped dogs 1 of the top defensive teams apart first half, lost all 3 outside backs for the 2nd half and still should have won with a last minute (non) penalty

In that game CHT threw a howler to the touch judge after a break which would have basically ended the game

Raiders game we should have won if CHT kicked 2 of the 3-4 kicks next to the posts

 

[CWC]

My 2.90 cents (post-inflation) on the halves - Metcalf will keep playing at 7 till we lose 3 games in a row or when he’s injured, whichever come first

If it’s the later and TMM plays like last year then he will keep the 7 when Metcalf returns at 6 and it could be a gun combo instead of the weird dynamic of SJ as de facto 6 last year.

In saying that Metcalf will surely improve through the season, maybe just let CHT or the other half do all the grubbers this year, that grubber with Leka and Ali on full steam still gives me blue balls Don’t think he even did any red zone kicks before that, which makes it feel worse, he should just run hard if we don’t have the numbers or shape fragmented like others said instead of brake and play touch like high school football

 

[Bay39er]

Can’t believe we are in the post game thread and it is being derailed by stay at home selectors

 

[Beastmode]

Can’t believe we are in the post game thread and it is being derailed by stay at home selectors

You can praise CNK and Leka only so many times before it starts getting boring…

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Interesting stat:

Our total run meters were 2030m for the Roosters game. This is the 2nd most meters run in a game of all 21 games so far this season. As a comparison, the unbeaten storm only ran for 1394m beating the Panthers.

We’re playing fast and making big meters! That’s why the opposition is fading at the end.

Of note, with us doing huge meters, you would expect lots of points with all the teams running 1900+m usually scoring 30+ points.

 

[Defence]

I'm sticking to my guns. We're winning the comp this year. Until we lose again after which I'll call for the coach to be sacked.

 

[run_it_str8_again]

I prefer a discussion using facts not hypotheticals

You may need to find someone else to satisfy your unmet need to argue.

 

[Defence]

He got to run the game ball out in full kit too, I have a family member with Down Sindrome so seeing something like that hits a little different.

Me too

 

[Makasene]

ford boring on the attack in comparison

It's not his role to attack.

His role coming off the bench in the middle is might effective. Why Webby went away from that in round 1 is a mystery but it won't happen again.

I actually think Walker is the weak link in this team, haven't been that impressed with his play this year.

I'd be happy carrying Healey over Walker.

 

[Muddogz]

Late to the party, but great performance effort wise and seem better conditioned this season. A few players had their best games of the season and they are building confidence and an identity of how they want to play.

It was a very physical game and I’m not to sure any team is going be relishing a trip to Mt Smart at this point. Attack is patchy though due to lacking X factor. Tigers are defending well at present so it will be a good test next week.

 

[Boats n Hoes]

View: https://youtu.be/oVroNcbLlWM?si=UgLVaEpDrbuHSdmj

Speaking of jamming. This was a pretty cool video where Jordan Pereira gave some input on why wingers are coached to jam in and what cues they're coached too recognize and jam on.

There's jamming in because its the defensive policy but then there's jamming in cause youve misread the cues, which Roger possibly did a couple of times there (not helped by non communication on his edge probably), and i still say in that first example they showed, it is possible for a faster centre to double off the decoy onto the sweeper, Manly identifying and exploiting Pompeys lack of gas.

I know there's a few rep Touch players on this site and all this stuff would be very familiar as your constantly put in these situations of defending multiple numbers and sweeping movements so your very reliant on your policy's which can change in an instant pending on ball position. And ive always said defending on the wing or at centre is so much harder than defending in the middle of the park for exactly that reason, u have multiple runners coming at u so u have to make defensive decions....in the middle its easy......smash whatever's in front of u.

Thanks man, i like these analysis type vids, didnt realize this one was out there, might follow it.

 

[Tragic]

It's not his role to attack.

His role coming off the bench in the middle is might effective. Why Webby went away from that in round 1 is a mystery but it won't happen again.

I actually think Walker is the weak link in this team, haven't been that impressed with his play this year.

I'd be happy carrying Healey over Walker.

Until walker comes on we look totally lost when we aren't hitting it up. Walker brings some shape. Metcalf looks way more lost without walker.

 

[Tragic]

I watched LM warming up and all he practiced was the bomb from 40 out. I think AW is telling him to keep it simple to bring him along. His kicking game is actually not bad if he sticks to that simple plan.
So far I have seen nothing about his game that says be can read what's in front of him to find a weakness or to set up other players.
Maybe that will change when he is set free to run more?
He is doing a good enough job for now while we are winning to persevere with him and see if it clicks.
CHT is exceeding my expectations.

 

[sydneywarrior92]

On the negative side, I don't know how many rounds in we should wait before becoming officially worried about the lack of attacking shape displayed so far. Erin Clark is doing a great job in the middle but he isn't a ball playing 13 as Tohu was, which was quite critical to our attacking structure for the last few years. As someone mentioned above, we only ever seem to get some semblance of shape when Walker comes into the game because both our halves seem lost when it comes to organizing. Personally, I'd like to see Boyd given a run in the halves at some stage this year partnering LM. His organizing ability clearly complements that of a more running half like TMM in NSW cup.

 

[John Nick]

I watched LM warming up and all he practiced was the bomb from 40 out. I think AW is telling him to keep it simple to bring him along. His kicking game is actually not bad if he sticks to that simple plan.
So far I have seen nothing about his game that says be can read what's in front of him to find a weakness or to set up other players.
Maybe that will change when he is set free to run more?
He is doing a good enough job for now while we are winning to persevere with him and see if it clicks.
CHT is exceeding my expectations.

Agreed I think Webby has instructed him to do the bulk of the kicking and be a link player until he settles into the position.
Can't wait for the brakes to be released.
That's just my opinion

 

[Makasene]

On the negative side, I don't know how many rounds in we should wait before becoming officially worried about the lack of attacking shape displayed so far. Erin Clark is doing a great job in the middle but he isn't a ball playing 13 as Tohu was, which was quite critical to our attacking structure for the last few years. As someone mentioned above, we only ever seem to get some semblance of shape when Walker comes into the game because both our halves seem lost when it comes to organizing. Personally, I'd like to see Boyd given a run in the halves at some stage this year partnering LM. His organizing ability clearly complements that of a more running half like TMM in NSW cup.

First thing LM needs to do is start taking the line on.

His lack of running is hurting his own play.

He certainly lacks much of the SJ finesse which is why he is better suited to being that 6 and supporting.

But, halfbacks take time to develop - I think we need to give him the time.

This attack though is not just about personnel on the field, is Stacey the attack coach? Cos it's been crap for a while

 

[Playdaball]

We’re winning but are the halves creating enough attacking opportunities? I think the best ball player is in the reserves playing at 6.
TMM and Boyd are building a solid playing bond - who is the best halves combo at the warriors??

 

[Playdaball]

One other point, I fear that a fast team such as the Titans will run around us as we are slow and continue to jam in!